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Yeah, I think at least some of Norris's impressive pace when he was following Hammy was due to him being on fresh rubber pretty much all of the time. I believe they put on a new set everytime he stopped for a hydraulic refill. According to Everso's post at the top of this page, Norris stopped six times!
Which is the correct answer....Michael Ferner wrote: ↑1 year ago According to Everso's post at the top of this page, Norris stopped six times!
Lando made 6 stops for a total time loss of 3 minutes 15,334 secs
I have been following F1 for while. Having watched the five seasons of Ferrari dominance, the four seasons of Red Bull dominance, the six seasons of Mercedes dominance... not particularly interested in watching what is now the second season of Red Bull's new dominance. I kind of prefer the days when 7 teams and 11 drivers would win in a season (i.e. 1982).Michael Ferner wrote: ↑1 year ago This mindset always puzzles me - are you only interested in who's coming first? I found motor racing always plenty interesting even if I knew perfectly well who was going to win. Sure, the sport has suffered in recent years, and the show itself is no longer riveting, but it's still more interesting than watching a lottery unfold, isn't it?
Yea, around August I got really busy (this is good news) and sort of had to step away from the board for while. It was already clear the championship was over. Still, did watch all the races last season though. Anyhow it is good to be back opining.
It really was a great drive and a great dice with Hamilton. I am almost an Alonso fan again, but that does mean I kind of have to forget about everything that happened from 2007 and after.Re your point #2 I think that Alonso drove very well, as I was watching him dicing with Hamilton I felt that I really missed him during the long years that he was out of action or saddled with an uncompetitive car, IMHO his move on Hamilton was great.
Yes, Alonso was in an odd position, so it was not completely Stoll's fault, still it was a hell of dive into a corner when his more senior teammate was in front of him. Not the wisest of decisions.Re good old Stroll and your comment at #4... well it's in his nature isn't it?however when he toched Alonso it is fair to say that Alonso followed an unsual line into that corner and hit the apex very late as he was trying to cut on the inside and therefore his braking wasn't following the usual pattern for that corner, on that basis alone I'd say that it was fair not to punish Stroll. Having said that any driver with a little bit of brain would have understood what was happening and acted accordingly. As you might remember my opinion of Stroll is that he has some talent for driving and not much else, he just can't read what is happening around him and he proved this point once again yesterday
Yea, I don't understand now that there is a budget cap in place why there are any restrictions on testing. If teams want to spend their money there, let them. They can choose to make the trade-offs.Re #5 I agree that this is something that stands out, if it wasn't for Gasly getting a few points for his new team all the new drivers or drivers who changed team would have fared poorly, I wonder if this is down to the lack of testing. In a sense I was expecting more from De Vries (who I rate a a much better driver than his team mate)
I can't tell him more as I don't really understand it myself, at least not well enough to be able to explain it to someone else. Anyone able to help please?Overall, a pretty dull race outside of the start and later the battery pack issue for LeClerc's car. By the way, that's my technical question for this race...what is it and how does it work? Sounds like the cars don't have an alternator to "charge" their systems, just batteries, is that right? Tell me more please.
Astute observation. RB will be in trouble in September, if others have only very short term problems and become competetive in 3 or 4 races. If however they take their time, say 3 or 4 months, then Max is gone with big smile, leaving au revoir behind him. We should not forget Mercedes and Ferrari might be taking points from each other as well. Then add Alonso into mix and hard to say how this ends.erwin greven wrote: ↑1 year ago I doubt that this race will be the example of the rest of the season.
- Bahrain exaggerates the gaps and flaws. Three test days + three FP sessions. The next race will give RBR much less time
- RBR can not upgrade/update its car in a way the others can. The penalty WILL hurt them further up the season.
OK My understanding of it (and im no engineer) is the Energy Source / Power Pack/ Storage is the hybrid electric storage provided by the MGU-K./ MGU-HStar wrote: ↑1 year ago Okay I am asking this for a friend, no seriously, I am as he asked me and I don't understand it sadly.
I can't tell him more as I don't really understand it myself, at least not well enough to be able to explain it to someone else. Anyone able to help please?Overall, a pretty dull race outside of the start and later the battery pack issue for LeClerc's car. By the way, that's my technical question for this race...what is it and how does it work? Sounds like the cars don't have an alternator to "charge" their systems, just batteries, is that right? Tell me more please.
Wise words, and if they were really so worried about the costs of testing they could arrange for a few days of testing at a given track where all can take part at no cost, as a matter of fact it's not a new idea, when I was young and I used to spend days and days watching F1 cars testing at Imola this was called "Goodyear testing session". And they even got a good deals from the local hotels since in February or March the hotels in the area didn't have much business going on. I mean the testing ban is totally pointless and irrational
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Yes, and in this case it worked in the real world.
With a budget cap in place, totally agree. I gather the original reason was to save on costs.P. Cornelius Scipio wrote: ↑1 year agoWise words, and if they were really so worried about the costs of testing they could arrange for a few days of testing at a given track where all can take part at no cost, as a matter of fact it's not a new idea, when I was young and I used to spend days and days watching F1 cars testing at Imola this was called "Goodyear testing session". And they even got a good deals from the local hotels since in February or March the hotels in the area didn't have much business going on. I mean the testing ban is totally pointless and irrational
Oh, I hope you are right... don't think this is really the case, but I do hope you are right.erwin greven wrote: ↑1 year ago I doubt that this race will be the example of the rest of the season.
- Bahrain exaggerates the gaps and flaws. Three test days + three FP sessions. The next race will give RBR much less time
- RBR can not upgrade/update its car in a way the others can. The penalty WILL hurt them further up the season.
Thank you so much @Everso Biggyballies you are a superstar.Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑1 year agoOK My understanding of it (and im no engineer) is the Energy Source / Power Pack/ Storage is the hybrid electric storage provided by the MGU-K./ MGU-HStar wrote: ↑1 year ago Okay I am asking this for a friend, no seriously, I am as he asked me and I don't understand it sadly.
I can't tell him more as I don't really understand it myself, at least not well enough to be able to explain it to someone else. Anyone able to help please?Overall, a pretty dull race outside of the start and later the battery pack issue for LeClerc's car. By the way, that's my technical question for this race...what is it and how does it work? Sounds like the cars don't have an alternator to "charge" their systems, just batteries, is that right? Tell me more please.
The MGU-K component (Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic) which is a seperate / additional component to the normal engine converts the heat produced from braking into electric energy. That converted energy is then stored in a high capacity battery pack energy storage system.
The driver can then when he needs a bit of extra power can press a button on the steering wheel to power a separate electric motor.... that electric power is then merged with the normal (petrol engine (the ICE, Internal Combustion Engine) to increase the overall power.
The power output of the MGU-K is limited by the FIA, and only a certain amount of electric power can be used per lap.
When you see the red lights flashing as a car approaches a corner that is showing the car is harvesting its electric power as the car brakes (ie charging the powerpack battery)
So the electric part of an F1 engine has its own power supply which is quite heavy and space consuming..... a bit like the battery aspect of any electric road car..
The MGU-K is one of those components that is limited on an F1 car to I think 3 per season...use 4 and like the ICE attracts it attracts a grid penalty.
Not to be confused with the MGU-H which is another electronic power device for generating electric power.... MGU-H (Motor Generator Unit-Heat) converts thermal heat from the exhaust into electric energy stored in the battery pack. Why do they have an MGU-K and an MGU-H? So the car can generate electric power when they are braking and also accelerating. The electric power generated by both is stored in the same way.... in the Battery / Power pack. That is what Ferrari changed pre race. Its like a super battery able to cope with fast charging and fast discharge when the button on the wheel is pressed
The two components combined form what is referred to as the ERS.... Energy Recovery System, of an F1 car..
The alternator is a part of the ICE that, as with a normal car, in laymans terms produces the power for the ignition that basically provides the spark that ignites the petrol. That is stored in a similar battery (but smaller lighter etc as a road car. Nothing to do with lets call it the hybrid side of the MGU-K and MGU-H
Hope that helps. I tried to describe it in laymans terms.
I knew one of you smart guys would be able to explain it for me. I really do appreciate it a lot. My friend only started watching F1 last year and he's full of questions, I can usually answer them but this one had me stumped 
Thanks for explaining that!Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑1 year agoOK My understanding of it (and im no engineer) is the Energy Source / Power Pack/ Storage is the hybrid electric storage provided by the MGU-K./ MGU-HStar wrote: ↑1 year ago Okay I am asking this for a friend, no seriously, I am as he asked me and I don't understand it sadly.
I can't tell him more as I don't really understand it myself, at least not well enough to be able to explain it to someone else. Anyone able to help please?Overall, a pretty dull race outside of the start and later the battery pack issue for LeClerc's car. By the way, that's my technical question for this race...what is it and how does it work? Sounds like the cars don't have an alternator to "charge" their systems, just batteries, is that right? Tell me more please.
The MGU-K component (Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic) which is a seperate / additional component to the normal engine converts the heat produced from braking into electric energy. That converted energy is then stored in a high capacity battery pack energy storage system.
The driver can then when he needs a bit of extra power can press a button on the steering wheel to power a separate electric motor.... that electric power is then merged with the normal (petrol engine (the ICE, Internal Combustion Engine) to increase the overall power.
The power output of the MGU-K is limited by the FIA, and only a certain amount of electric power can be used per lap.
When you see the red lights flashing as a car approaches a corner that is showing the car is harvesting its electric power as the car brakes (ie charging the powerpack battery)
So the electric part of an F1 engine has its own power supply which is quite heavy and space consuming..... a bit like the battery aspect of any electric road car..
The MGU-K is one of those components that is limited on an F1 car to I think 3 per season...use 4 and like the ICE attracts it attracts a grid penalty.
Not to be confused with the MGU-H which is another electronic power device for generating electric power.... MGU-H (Motor Generator Unit-Heat) converts thermal heat from the exhaust into electric energy stored in the battery pack. Why do they have an MGU-K and an MGU-H? So the car can generate electric power when they are braking and also accelerating. The electric power generated by both is stored in the same way.... in the Battery / Power pack. That is what Ferrari changed pre race. Its like a super battery able to cope with fast charging and fast discharge when the button on the wheel is pressed
The two components combined form what is referred to as the ERS.... Energy Recovery System, of an F1 car..
The alternator is a part of the ICE that, as with a normal car, in laymans terms produces the power for the ignition that basically provides the spark that ignites the petrol. That is stored in a similar battery (but smaller lighter etc as a road car. Nothing to do with lets call it the hybrid side of the MGU-K and MGU-H
Hope that helps. I tried to describe it in laymans terms.
'Electrickery' has always been my weak subject, I hate it when sparks fly 
Just thought I would add this..... remember when back in the latter V8 days we had KERS.... that was all worked by Kinetic (ie harvested from the brakes) energy so the system was a Kinetic Energy Recovery System. With the new smaller V6 full hybrid engines introduced in 2014, they became more hybrid, with both Kinetic and Heat Thermal (not just Kinetic) recovery.... obviously they couldnt keep calling it simply KERS, so it became ERS, Energy Recovery System.Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑1 year ago<Snip>Star wrote: ↑1 year ago Okay I am asking this for a friend, no seriously, I am as he asked me and I don't understand it sadly.
I can't tell him more as I don't really understand it myself, at least not well enough to be able to explain it to someone else. Anyone able to help please?Overall, a pretty dull race outside of the start and later the battery pack issue for LeClerc's car. By the way, that's my technical question for this race...what is it and how does it work? Sounds like the cars don't have an alternator to "charge" their systems, just batteries, is that right? Tell me more please.
The two components combined form what is referred to as the ERS.... Energy Recovery System, of an F1 car..
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