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We're Going To Spa! 2021 Belgian GP

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Okay, confession time, I saw we didn't have a thread for this race and although I originally wrote this for somewhere else, it still holds true and I thought I'd put it up here. I hope you don't mind :blush: :

If you say the word Spa to most women, the vast majority would probably think of a luxury place where they can get a massage, facial, manicure and pedicure or any number of other beauty treatments. Not me though, for me if you say the word Spa my eyes light up and I think of probably the best race track on the current F1 calendar. This is a track where over the years we've had a lot of exciting races full of thrills a spills. A track which if you ask the drivers to name their favourite circuits, it will most likely be in the top three they come up with. A drivers track, a track with history and a classic that seems to mean more when you finish first. Congratulations you’ve just won Spa!!

Spa has always been a challenge but even in the years I’ve been watching F1 it’s been sanitised to some degree. The Bus Stop when you almost used to stop and indicate to turn off onto a small side road before rejoining the track was always something I enjoyed, that is long since gone. Thankfully Eau Rogue is still something of a challenge but even that is perhaps not quite what it used to be. Most drivers will tell you that it’s still a hell of a corner but often these days they take it flat. Yet think back a few years and most people would look at you like you needed your head testing is you even suggested such a thing.

In 1998 Jacques Villeneuve tried taking Eau Rouge flat and crashed his Williams Mecachrome spectacularly, nothing that remarkable there, a lot of people have done so over the years. It was a pretty heavy crash but he was quickly out of the car and back to the pits again. Did he learn from it though? Did he hell?

Fast forward to 1999 and Jacques is with BAR, his team mate is a young Ricardo Zonta and the two drivers got talking. Apparently they came up with a bet or dare, call it what you will and the fans who watched qualifying that year were in for a sight they wouldn’t forget, I was one of them. As a Jacques Villneueve fan I was on the edge of my seat as he set off, I recalled all too clearly what had happened the year before.

Apparently Villeneuve dared Zonta to take Eau Rouge flat. As I say, these days it seems unremarkable, back then it almost seemed like a death wish. Villeneuve went out first and attempted to take the corner flat, just as he’d said. Much as in 1998 he tried and failed. His crash was worse than 1998, he was heard to comment afterwards ‘at least I rolled it’. His younger and much less experienced team mate then went out. Even after seeing what had happened to Villeneuve, Zonta stuck to his word and he too attempted to take the corner flat, his crash was even worse than Villeneuve’s. I do recall the look of total disbelief on Craig Pollock’s face at what his two drivers had done to his teams' cars. Both drivers thankfully walked away from their wrecked cars and a lesson was learnt, no, you couldn’t take Eau Rouge flat at that time, but it hadn’t stop them trying. You have to wonder why they tried it in the first place, bravado? Stupidity? That need to be on 'the edge' as Jacques himself used to say? The thrill of pushing man and car to the limit? It could be any or a combination of all of these things, I just remember it was both exciting and yet horrifying to watch them try it at the time.

Spa is also subject to the weather effect, catch your pitstop just right as it begins to rain and you’re a hero, miss that pit entry just as the heavens open and the likelihood is your race is ruined, mostly just due to the length of the track as it's the longest on the current calendar. By the time you've tiptoed all that way back around to the pits again, it's probably too late to save your race. That is part of the joy and agony of the Spa-Francorchamps circuit and what makes it still one of the races in the season that I, and most likely a lot of you, most look forward to, probably a lot of the drivers do too. It always offers up the chance of a brilliant race and thankfully it still sometimes produces one too.

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2010 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2011 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2012 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
2013 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2014 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault
2015 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2016 Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2017 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2018 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
2019 Charles Leclerc Ferrari
2020 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes


Kimi Raikkonen and Lewis Hamilton have both won here 4 times, Sebastian Vettel 3 times. The highest multiple winner os Michael Schumacher with 6 times.

In case you don't know, the race takes place over 44 laps of the 7.004-kilometre circuit.

In 2020, your pole sitter was Hamilton and the podium was 1st Hamilton, 2nd Bottas, 3rd Verstappen.

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Any Mongols???
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erwin greven wrote: 2 years ago Any Mongols???
Oddly enough no, they'd all gone on their holidays. Well, it is the time of year for it :whistling: :haha:
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Star wrote: 2 years ago Okay, confession time, I saw we didn't have a thread for this race and although I originally wrote this for somewhere else, it still holds true and I thought I'd put it up here. I hope you don't mind :blush: :
Not a problem. I must admit I only today had the penny drop that we were back in business this weekend... the break seems to have flown by.
Bottom line thanks a lot for posting it.
Certainly Spa is always a race I look forward to.... it always captivates me and is a circuit where at least passing is possible, and we have seen some memorable passing moves over the years..

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No problem @Everso Biggyballies. I know you usually do them lately but I thought I'd save you a job :)
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Thought Bruxelles was Rivage and Stavelot was replaced by the name Paul Frère.
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Just to confuse matters here is another orientation of the track ma, with the DRS zones marked.

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A bit more info

Spa-Francorchamps

When was the track built?

The original, triangle-shaped track was built in 1921, with designers Jules de Thier and Henri Langlois van Ophem using public roads between the towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy, and Stavelot to create an amazing 14.9km circuit taking in the forests and rolling hills of the beautiful Ardennes region. The track was redeveloped in 1979, and although the new circuit is only half the original's length, it’s still the longest on the current calendar at 7.004km.

When was its first Grand Prix?
Having hosted a non-championship Grand Prix as long ago as 1924, Belgium’s iconic circuit was one of just seven to be part of Formula 1’s maiden championship in 1950. That race was won by the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio, who led home an Alfa Romeo one-two ahead of team mate Nino Farina.

What’s the circuit like?
Spa is among Formula 1 drivers’ most loved tracks, with its mix of long straights and challenging fast corners allowing them to push their cars to the edge of their capabilities – if it’s dry, that is. The size of the track and the nature of Belgian weather means it can sometimes be raining on one part of the track and dry on another, meaning grip can vary from one corner to the next. Keep an eye on the thrilling Eau Rouge, arguably the most famous sequence of corners in the world, as the drivers flick left, right and then up the hill through Raidillon.


Some words from Pirelli re the tyres for the weekend.

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WHY WE’VE CHOSEN THE TYRES

Formula 1 is back after its summer break with compounds in the middle of the range for the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa-Francorchamps: the first race of the second triple-header of the 2021 season. In Belgium, the C2 will be the P Zero White hard, the C3 will be the P Zero Yellow medium, and the C4 will be the P Zero Red soft.
This is the same nomination as last year, which was a step softer than the tyres nominated back in 2019.
Spa, well-known as one of the most exciting tracks on the calendar, contains a wide range of different demands over the longest lap of the season.


TRACK CHARACTERISTICS

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Spa – located in the foothills of the Ardennes – is of course synonymous with changeable weather, which can also vary on different parts of the circuit. Although last year’s race was dry, there’s always a high chance of the Cinturato wet-weather tyres making an appearance at some point over the weekend.

The forces put through the tyres at the Belgian Grand Prix are high, especially at the famous Eau Rouge-Raidillon complex, where the tyres are subjected to a fierce compression and heavy g forces over one of the fastest parts of the track.
The Kemmel Straight at nearly 800 metres long, has the effect of cooling the tyres down, which affects grip through the following corners. In fact, from the exit of La Source all the way to Les Combes (which follows the Kemmel Straight) is a distance of just over two kilometres without any braking.

Last year’s Belgian Grand Prix was won with a one-stop medium-hard strategy: the same tactic selected by all three podium finishers. They switched during a lengthy safety car period from lap 11 that heavily influenced the strategy, with all but two drivers stopping under the safety car.

MIN. STARTING PRESSURES (slicks) EOS CAMBER LIMIT
PRESSURE 24.0 psi (front) | 22.0 psi (rear) -2.75° (front) | -1.50 ° (rear) CAMBER

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erwin greven wrote: 2 years ago Thought Bruxelles was Rivage and Stavelot was replaced by the name Paul Frère.
Dont know, been a while since I looked at Spa. Maybe they changed the names around, I'll have a look whenever I add the RX track.
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Michkov wrote: 2 years ago
erwin greven wrote: 2 years ago Thought Bruxelles was Rivage and Stavelot was replaced by the name Paul Frère.
Dont know, been a while since I looked at Spa. Maybe they changed the names around, I'll have a look whenever I add the RX track.
Seconded regarding rivage, that's how I've always known it
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DoubleFart wrote: 2 years ago Image

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Bless him, good old Riccardo Zonta in that dogs dinner of a car by BAR, of he course he was the meat in the infamous Schumacher, Hakkinen pass, also at Spa back in 2000. It's a great track ;)
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Circuitmaster wrote: 2 years ago
Michkov wrote: 2 years ago
erwin greven wrote: 2 years ago Thought Bruxelles was Rivage and Stavelot was replaced by the name Paul Frère.
Dont know, been a while since I looked at Spa. Maybe they changed the names around, I'll have a look whenever I add the RX track.
Seconded regarding rivage, that's how I've always known it
No, Rivage has always been the left-hander after the Bruxelles corner.
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