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Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 09:39 am
by DoubleFart

Bottom post of the previous page:

Kai-Star wrote: 2 years ago Wow. I like it. At least from the perspective that the circuit owners actually care about racing and are willing to do something about it. With Melbourne doing something similar, maybe there is a positive trend happening.
A trend of treating the symptoms, not the disease.

Fix the cars.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:08 am
by erwin greven
DoubleFart wrote: 2 years ago A trend of treating the symptoms, not the disease.

Fix the cars.
Next year.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 15:18 pm
by Circuitmaster
DoubleFart wrote: 2 years ago
Kai-Star wrote: 2 years ago Wow. I like it. At least from the perspective that the circuit owners actually care about racing and are willing to do something about it. With Melbourne doing something similar, maybe there is a positive trend happening.
A trend of treating the symptoms, not the disease.

Fix the cars.
Both, please.

Also, one question persists: how banked is banked?

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 15:30 pm
by Michael Ferner
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 15:58 pm
by Circuitmaster
Michael Ferner wrote: 2 years ago How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
Not sure.. but I want to know if we're talking Club banking, Indianapolis banking, Zandvoort banking, etc. If they go steep, it could be quite a fun corner.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 23:24 pm
by MonteCristo
Michael Ferner wrote: 2 years ago How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
How fat are the angels?

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 08:26 am
by PTRACER
Banking will be a wall of death, 90 degrees of inclination.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 09:32 am
by White six
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago Banking will be a wall of death, 90 degrees of inclination.
In the centre will be a large black box, the kabba

10000 laps. Fecking mazzypins will be problematic

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 09:17 am
by Everso Biggyballies
Re Abu Dhabi track 'improvements', I have to say I agree with whoever came up with "You cant polish a turd..... but you can roll it in glitter"!

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2021 08:48 am
by Circuitmaster

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 04:11 am
by PTRACER
Circuitmaster wrote: 2 years ago Bit of an update on Yas Marina

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/09/ ... terations/
Starting to look a little better, I suppose.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 08:05 am
by Everso Biggyballies
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago
Circuitmaster wrote: 2 years ago Bit of an update on Yas Marina

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/09/ ... terations/
Starting to look a little better, I suppose.
On the basis of they could not have made it worse. :wink:

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 08:33 am
by PTRACER
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 years ago
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago
Circuitmaster wrote: 2 years ago Bit of an update on Yas Marina

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2021/09/ ... terations/
Starting to look a little better, I suppose.
On the basis of they could not have made it worse. :wink:
They could make it worse by replacing it with another Tilke designed track in the desert, like Losail. Oh wait.

I don't know why F1 keeps going back to Tilke's company, almost half of the circuits are no longer on the F1 calendar, some have gone defunct entirely or stopped holding international races, and half of those that are still on the calendar receive scathing comments year after year from fans. Actually two of them never made it to the calendar and the fans hate them:-

A1 Ring - Went defunct and was only resurrected because Red Bull bought it
Sepang International Circuit - No longer on F1 calendar
Nürburgring - No longer on F1 calendar
Hockenheim - No longer on F1 calendar
Bahrain International Circuit - IN USE
Shanghai International Circuit - IN USE, except for pandemic
Fuji Speedway - No longer on F1 calendar
Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya - IN USE and often rated one of the worst of the traditional circuits
Valencia Street Circuit - No longer on F1 calendar + defunct
Yas Marina Circuit - IN USE and often rated as the worst circuit
Korea International Circuit - No longer on F1 calendar + practically defunct
Buddh International Circuit - No longer on F1 calendar
Circuit of the Americas - IN USE
Sochi Autodrom - IN USE and often rated as the worst circuit after Yas Marina
Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez - IN USE
Baku City Circuit - IN USE
Hanoi Street Circuit - Never raced on, defunct
Jeddah Street Circuit - Not yet built, but already cited as being as bad as Yas Marina and Sochi for overtaking

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:54 am
by XcraigX
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago Nürburgring - No longer on F1 calendar
Fuji Speedway - No longer on F1 calendar
Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya - IN USE and often rated one of the worst of the traditional circuits
Haven't these three existed long before Tilke was around? Perhaps I can see the last corner re-profiling on the Catalunya track being a Tilke thing. But from what I can tell the Fuji and Nurburg tracks have been around since the early 80s and every corner on the Catalunya track except the last one since then also.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:00 pm
by PTRACER
XcraigX wrote: 2 years ago
PTRACER wrote: 2 years ago Nürburgring - No longer on F1 calendar
Fuji Speedway - No longer on F1 calendar
Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya - IN USE and often rated one of the worst of the traditional circuits
Haven't these three existed long before Tilke was around? Perhaps I can see the last corner re-profiling on the Catalunya track being a Tilke thing. But from what I can tell the Fuji and Nurburg tracks have been around since the early 80s and every corner on the Catalunya track except the last one since then also.
Fuji was completely redesigned by him in the mid-2000s.

True about Catalunya but it was just an additional excuse to have a dig at him. He was given the task of improving the circuit and did a terrible job.

Re: Abu Dhabi Yas Marina circuit to undergo lay-out changes

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 22:11 pm
by Metzo
PTRACER wrote: 2 years agoA1 Ring - Went defunct and was only resurrected because Red Bull bought it
to be fair, the original circuit would definitely be defunct by now without the redesign by tilke.

about Fuji, were the changes really only done to get F1 back? i doubt the previous layout would still be in use today due safety reasons.