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"And with a time of 45 minutes and 34 seconds, please welcome your pole position winner, Lewis Hamilton!"

Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago When we have Sprint race format weekends....

Who would have thought the person fastest in Fridays Official Qualifying would have pole position?

But the fastest guy on Friday will win GT'P'! I'm not considering the s int race at all!

XcraigX wrote: ↑2 years ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago When we have Sprint race format weekends....

Who would have thought the person fastest in Fridays Official Qualifying would have pole position?

But the fastest guy on Friday will win GT'P'! I'm not considering the s int race at all!

Personally, I'd love to see a non-championship guess the race time pole round...

Sure, there's the possibility of rain... But how about three safety cars?

Circuitmaster wrote: ↑2 years ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago OK Quiz time

When we have Sprint race format weekends....

Who would have thought the person fastest in Fridays Official Qualifying would have pole position?

How many of you put.your hands up? (Apart from me.) I ut my hand u. To me the bloke who qualifies fastest gets pole position.

All those who thought the same, we are all wrong. That is also what Ross Brawn said when this whole concept was spoken of. So he was wrong as well.

But after Ross told us that fastest in qualy was ole, as usual, the wise men at the FIA and Liberty got their heads together and decided No. No the person who gets pole is the person who wins the sprint race.

I hate to bring this up but.. you yourself posted this explanation on page 2 of this thread :

Yes but the part I really dont like was not explained and has only just recently been confirmed, and that is that pole position in name and stat form is now officially given to the sprint race winner. I know the Sprint race winner starts at the front (aka pole) of the feature race, but the person who sets what to me is the essence of qualifying, the out and out fastest one lap time, does not get recorded as the fastest qualifier. The pole position is now held by a race winner who as @MonteCristo says has set a pole position of 45 minutes or so, maybe conserving tyres and engine on the way. Not to me what the essence of qualifying is.

Its just a rant... originally they had said the pole stat would be held by the person who had gone through Q1,Q2 and Q3 and set the fastest individual lap in Q3. I was fine with that.

The same reason as I dont like the Indy 500 pole being an average of 4 laps. I understand with Indy, being an oval of such a short time but a 30 la cumulative pole time, not for me.

The rest of my post re the points and stuff was just a red wine fuelled rant of other things that I dont like about the new format. I was on a roll!

Having had my rant, I will say that, whilst I have my reservations I am happy to sit back and see how it pans out. If I find it better, well, humble pie will be eaten. And maybe a hat or two

*Not to self: dont post rants fuelled by red wine.

Maybe they could just get rid of the three qualifying periods, seeing as they're effectively redundant.

MonteCristo wrote: ↑2 years ago Maybe they could just get rid of the three qualifying periods, seeing as they're effectively redundant.

Then they would have to draw for position, subtract the number first thought of, add the drivers birthdate first number, , and then double it, then reverse everything to work out who starts where in the sprint race.

Or just have a pre-qualifying race to work out .... or a fan vote!

Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago

MonteCristo wrote: ↑2 years ago Maybe they could just get rid of the three qualifying periods, seeing as they're effectively redundant.

Then they would have to draw for position, subtract the number first thought of, add the drivers birthdate first number, , and then double it, then reverse everything to work out who starts where in the sprint race.

Double points if it's the driver's birthday month.

Five place grid penalty if a second cousin was born within 2000km of the circuit.

Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago
I know the Sprint race winner starts at the front (aka pole) of the feature race, but the person who sets what to me is the essence of qualifying, the out and out fastest one lap time, does not get recorded as the fastest qualifier. The pole position is now held by a race winner who as @MonteCristo says has set a pole position of 45 minutes or so, maybe conserving tyres and engine on the way. Not to me what the essence of qualifying is.

I get what you're saying, but I absolutely can't stomach the idea of one driver getting pole position on Friday, starting the sprint race in first, then being passed.. and the driver who starts the main race on Sunday is not considered the pole sitter. Even if the method of securing pole has changed, the title of pole sitter should always go to whoever starts Sunday in first.

I haven't read into the nitty gritty. So my question is (if anyone can answer), will the tyres be different for the Sprint Race and the Full Race? Also will setup changes between races be allowed? If both are true, at least we'll potentially get different races.

Lewis Hamilton says he has “not particularly” high hopes for Formula 1’s first sprint race at Silverstone next weekend, predicting it will be “a train”.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/ha ... d=msedgntp

Makes sense.

No point risking going backwards. The only people who would push would be those who qualified... errr... pre(?)-qualified out of position towards the back.

Otherwise, why risk it all for a place or two that don't overly matter?

Michael Masi says he’s open to adjusting the new sprint qualifying weekend rules should any unexpected issues arise at the British GP.

So some things from this weekend coming might not be around at Monza.... Mind you the rules have been written by a committee of all teams, principals, the FIA, F1 / Liberty etc. What could possibly go wrong?!

So you do all that work and qualify first, do the sprint race and say get put off in the first corner and have to retire, that's your Sunday over. I don't like this as a plan but I could be wrong. Obviously with me being a woman, that usually never happens

I don't understand why the sprint race would necessarily be any more of a train than the Sunday race. As far as I see it, the sprint race is basically just the first few laps of the Grand Prix (With bonus points). In my experience, that's the best time to make up places.

We've seen plenty of foolhardy moves on lap one in the past. I don't see why the sprint race should be any different, just because it's a day earlier. It's still a great opportunity to make up spots.

In fact, drivers who start well but qualify poorly should be excited.. they've doubled their chances of moving up the field.

Fuck. A shit qualifier who gets lucky in weird situations?

Put all your money on Stroll.

Re Stroll I noticed that at the last round he got all of the one-off updates for his car. The team had always said priority would go to whoever was leading in the championship. At that time Stroll was.

Now that Vettel seems to have got a bit more of a handle on the car, and has amassed over double the points of Stroll it seems Stroll still gets them first. Oh well I guess Seb knew it was always going to go the way of Daddy's boy.

MonteCristo wrote: ↑2 years ago

Lewis Hamilton says he has “not particularly” high hopes for Formula 1’s first sprint race at Silverstone next weekend, predicting it will be “a train”.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/ha ... d=msedgntp

Makes sense.

No point risking going backwards. The only people who would push would be those who qualified... errr... pre(?)-qualified out of position towards the back.

Otherwise, why risk it all for a place or two that don't overly matter?

Yeah, people won't risk a damn thing in sprint races if they don't have to. This will be boredom on steroids. If Hamilton openly says this will be a train then you just know how boring this will be