erwin greven wrote: ↑3 years ago
Mark was not an easy team mate. Same with Ricciardo. And i doubt if the RBR was constantly the best car.
Tbh any world championship chasing ace would dream of having team mates like Weber and Bottas. Keep you sharp but easy to push around when needed
Re: Future of Sebastian Vettel
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 04:06 am
by Kai-Star
Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑3 years ago
He is no Villeneuve or Peterson, both drivers able to wrestle the very best from an ordinary car.
Ronnie really struggled with the P34 Tyrrell.
Re: Future of Sebastian Vettel
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 07:19 am
by jimclark
So true. With 'em in '77.....aaaannnd........nor agin' 'em in '76.
To be fair however, did Goodyear do any development for Tyrrell after the initial? Depailler didn't fair to well either in '77 compared to his and Scheckter's '76 season with it.
'T'was a shame, the '34 was interesting and showed promise.
Re: Future of Sebastian Vettel
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 07:38 am
by Everso Biggyballies
jimclark wrote: ↑3 years ago
To be fair however, did Goodyear do any development for Tyrrell after the initial? Depailler didn't fair to well either in '77 compared to his and Scheckter's '76 season with it.
'T'was a shame, the '34 was interesting and showed promise.
The problem was IIRC that the front tyre got no development at all, being a 10 inch diameter size unique to Tyrrell (and not just in F1, the size was just oddball full stop). However to compound that the rears, being a size common to all in F1, and with Michelin coming into F1 in 1977 (with Renault) there was a development tyre war developing. So the rears were getting better and grippier by the race with the fronts on the Tyrrell remaining static creating huge and widening issues with front to rear balance.
Of course Goodyear were developing. the standard 13" size F1 front that all bar Tyrrell were using so the rest of the grid had front and rear tyres developed in unison and complementary to each other.
Re: Future of Sebastian Vettel
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 07:40 am
by MonteCristo
jimclark wrote: ↑3 years ago
So true. With 'em in '77.....aaaannnd........nor agin' 'em in '76.
To be fair however, did Goodyear do any development for Tyrrell after the initial? Depailler didn't fair to well either in '77 compared to his and Scheckter's '76 season with it.
'T'was a shame, the '34 was interesting and showed promise.
No, Goodyear didn't.
It showed more than just promise - it was highly competitive early on. But it just stagnated.
Re: Future of Sebastian Vettel
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 07:49 am
by jimclark
DoubleFart wrote: ↑3 years agoThe issue is your abrasive language/posting style, the attacks you've done on other members because you personally weren't interested in their post, and your determination to play semantics.
And I'm to give any credence to the author of such?.....
DoubleFart wrote: ↑3 years agoI don't know if you're trolling or just retarded by this point.
Quality.
Ponderous.
Re: Future of Sebastian Vettel
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 08:10 am
by jimclark
Everso Biggyballies , MonteCristo....I didn't think they got any. I remembered that Goodyear left 'em out to dry but wasn't sure if it did at least some compound development the first year while keeping the same design and molds otherwise...... Like I said, 'a shame, as was the turbine restricting out of competitiveness in Indy car racing (USAC at the time). ;(
DoubleFart wrote: ↑3 years agoThe issue is your abrasive language/posting style, the attacks you've done on other members because you personally weren't interested in their post, and your determination to play semantics.
And I'm to give any credence to the author of such?.....
DoubleFart wrote: ↑3 years agoI don't know if you're trolling or just retarded by this point.
Quality.
Ponderous.
That would suggest you gave credence to my posts in the first place, which you clearly haven't.