Star wrote: ↑1 year ago
As much as Sebastian loves F1, I think he's done with it. He might come back, but I don't know that he will. He has a family and a lot of other things that he really wants to do right now. He also sees the major hypocrisy problem with F1 racing compared to his green, save the world beliefs. I think that was also a big part of why he walked away.
Will he come back if they can clean up the sport and make it much greener? I think he could well do so.
Sustainable fuel i his big thing, and he ran his Williams at Silverstone using fully sustainable fuel as a demo of it can be done. The problem is F1 cannot / wont move to fully sustainable fuel until the new engines come into play with fully sustainable fuel as part of the new engine regs. The change to E10 fuel this year (10% ethanol) caused the teams and more so the fuel companies a huge headache and difficulties. Not only that there are now concerns over the partially sustainable fuels we are now using in road cars are not really improving the eco factor due to other issues such as reduced fuel economy and the actual production of the more sustainable fuel is worse than normal fuel.
So a fully sustainable fuel wont happen before 2026, probably too late to be of much interest to Seb.
We have a thread on Fuel and F1 which covers some of the F1 fuel issues here in case anyone is interested : viewtopic.php?t=17476
Remind me, was this totally synthetic fuel?
Obviously biofuels are absolute bollocks. Take fields away from food production and you can produce a lot more energy by sticking solar panels on those fields anyway
Yes, when the cars take to the track for the first time in 2026, they'll do so powered by carbon-neutral synthetic fuels.
Of course the trucks, the travel, the fans etc will still be producing the thousands of tons of CO2 to get there. (apparently 0.7% of F1's cabon footprint is the cars!). However come 2026 we could all be driving to watch the GP in cars using the same synthetic fuel.... (the regs say it must be 100% synthetic and usable by road cars
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Star wrote: ↑1 year ago
As much as Sebastian loves F1, I think he's done with it. He might come back, but I don't know that he will. He has a family and a lot of other things that he really wants to do right now. He also sees the major hypocrisy problem with F1 racing compared to his green, save the world beliefs. I think that was also a big part of why he walked away.
Will he come back if they can clean up the sport and make it much greener? I think he could well do so.
Sustainable fuel i his big thing, and he ran his Williams at Silverstone using fully sustainable fuel as a demo of it can be done. The problem is F1 cannot / wont move to fully sustainable fuel until the new engines come into play with fully sustainable fuel as part of the new engine regs. The change to E10 fuel this year (10% ethanol) caused the teams and more so the fuel companies a huge headache and difficulties. Not only that there are now concerns over the partially sustainable fuels we are now using in road cars are not really improving the eco factor due to other issues such as reduced fuel economy and the actual production of the more sustainable fuel is worse than normal fuel.
So a fully sustainable fuel wont happen before 2026, probably too late to be of much interest to Seb.
We have a thread on Fuel and F1 which covers some of the F1 fuel issues here in case anyone is interested : viewtopic.php?t=17476
Remind me, was this totally synthetic fuel?
Obviously biofuels are absolute bollocks. Take fields away from food production and you can produce a lot more energy by sticking solar panels on those fields anyway
Yes, when the cars take to the track for the first time in 2026, they'll do so powered by carbon-neutral synthetic fuels.
Of course the trucks, the travel, the fans etc will still be producing the thousands of tons of CO2 to get there. (apparently 0.7% of F1's cabon footprint is the cars!). However come 2026 we could all be driving to watch the GP in cars using the same synthetic fuel.... (the regs say it must be 100% synthetic and usable by road cars
Yeah, just reminding myself , made from electrolysis hydrogen and carbon, presumably from the atmosphere. Doable if you can use renewables to make it. I'd still be suspicious though that the electricity could be put to better use. (Not an issue when we achieve an excess of renewable power)
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DownForce wrote: ↑1 year ago
I won't be surprised if he comes back to F1 as some high management in Red Bull - within 2 years
D/T 2022.11.27 / 15:11 (UTC)
I am not sure whether you have seen this:
Red Bull adviser, Helmut Marko, has hinted that former Formula 1 driver, Sebastian Vettel, would slot nicely into a leadership role at the Austrian team.
“We had a discussion and I think if he could get a top management position, that might appeal to him. That’s what emerged in the talk.
DownForce wrote: ↑1 year ago
I won't be surprised if he comes back to F1 as some high management in Red Bull - within 2 years
D/T 2022.11.27 / 15:11 (UTC)
I am not sure whether you have seen this:
Red Bull adviser, Helmut Marko, has hinted that former Formula 1 driver, Sebastian Vettel, would slot nicely into a leadership role at the Austrian team.
“We had a discussion and I think if he could get a top management position, that might appeal to him. That’s what emerged in the talk.
DownForce wrote: ↑1 year ago
I won't be surprised if he comes back to F1 as some high management in Red Bull - within 2 years
D/T 2022.11.27 / 15:11 (UTC)
I am not sure whether you have seen this:
Red Bull adviser, Helmut Marko, has hinted that former Formula 1 driver, Sebastian Vettel, would slot nicely into a leadership role at the Austrian team.
“We had a discussion and I think if he could get a top management position, that might appeal to him. That’s what emerged in the talk.
Yes, it seems so. I was hoping to see him at Hinwil with Andreas or Mike Krack, but for initial high level training Helmut would be definitely most suited for such role as a mentor. The first obsticle ahead is that Helmut needs to sort out his own future at Singapore.
DoubleFart wrote: ↑1 year ago
I am never hoping to see Mike Krack.
Mike has his hands tied in his current office. I would not hold failures against him. My bet is he will take off at the first chance he gets. Mr. Stroll and Mr. Whitmarsh are running the show at AMR. Mr. Whitmarsh had a lot to say about how deeply he will be involved in running the team. So, we see it now. Seb told them a couple of months ago - hiring big guns alone is not enough. Someone has to put it all together. I gather we will hear more about it from Alonso soon, faithful to his old habits (to speak his mind loud).
While some ponder Sebastian Vettel's possible return as an F1 driver, Helmut Marko believes the four-time world champion would be the ideal candidate to oversee Red Bull's racing operations
Sounds like there are some gifts emerging under the tree for Seb. I am nor sure how realisic that is, but it's nice when people think of you in good terms.
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If Seb comes back to F1, I doubt it would be as a driver again, but working for a team like that makes a lot of sense. He knows so much of how these things work and he's a perfectionist, the quality you need in F1. I just hope if he does come back he'll sort out his hair and that straggly beard, they do nothing for him in my opinion.
Aty wrote: ↑1 year ago
D/T 2022.11.29 / 12:19 (UTC)
Dr. Marko thinks Seb can replace him.
While some ponder Sebastian Vettel's possible return as an F1 driver, Helmut Marko believes the four-time world champion would be the ideal candidate to oversee Red Bull's racing operations
Sounds like there are some gifts emerging under the tree for Seb. I am nor sure how realisic that is, but it's nice when people think of you in good terms.
While I can see him remaining around the sport, I can't see him having a fulltime job for at least a couple of years.
If your rationale for retiring from travelling around the world is spending more time with a young family, then you're going to spend at least a bit of time with them until they drive you up the wall and you try to ghost your way gradually towards other things.
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