Bottom post of the previous page:
You're right about the early part of the disciplines, there were no line between the two disciplines established then. Example of where you could all kind of cars in the same race: http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/C ... 11-23.htmltheracer120 wrote:When stock car racing began it involved racing cars that were either modified or unmodified versions of road cars.Cheeveer wrote:I was more thinking history and philosophy.
American stock car racing is its own entity. An American stock car has never been interchangeable with a European-style (or Australian) touring car. Stock car racing carved out its own discipline of motor racing, independent from the touring car racing that happened in Europe. That stock cars were built for ovals and touring cars for road courses is the most important aspect, obviously.
Talking about NASCAR while discussing "touring car racing" is futile, since there is no historical parallell.
When touring car racing began it also involved racing cars that were either modified or unmodified versions of road cars. I'm fairly certain you could have run a NASCAR-spec Hudson Hornet or something like that in a touring car race back in the day, presuming it had enough seats or doors.
Even the oval part isn't neccesarilly correct either. Something like Turismo Carretera is classified a stock car category, even though it has generally run road courses and some rally-type courses throughout its history. Then there's Stock Car Brasil, a category which runs entirely on road courses.
My point was that they developed away from each other quickly.
In STCC's S2000 era, there were some "homebuilt" cars that were definitely built from actual road cars.theracer120 wrote:Maybe Supertouring? Some of the early V8 Supercars (back before they were actually called that) might have been stripped down road cars as well. Group A was definitely based off of road cars.PTRACER wrote: I would be interested to know the last time they used actual stripped down road cars for top level saloon car racing.