Rate the 2023 Belgian GP

[SBan83]

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DRS needs to go away - if it were such a brilliant solution, many other series would've adopted it. But none have, as far as I know. DTM tried it for a while, I think, but they've done away with it too. It's obvious to everyone that it's a flawed tool, totally dependent on how it's calibrated - and most times, it's calibrated farcically.

If F1 insists on having a Mario Kart element to negate the effort and patience of setting up a proper overtake, then at least have push-to-pass like IndyCar. At least it has strategic element, though no less farcical in my book.

F1 already has a push-to-pass system (the Overtake button).

But isn't it dependent on the ERS? I figured that'd make it not as consistent as IndyCar's version.

[Michkov]

Yes, but IIRC that is only due to the "party modes" being outlawed. The engines are fundamentally the same, so there shouldn't be too much modifications required to given them a mode where they make more power for x amount of seconds. I suppose it's mostly a software issue.

[PTRACER]

DRS needs to go away - if it were such a brilliant solution, many other series would've adopted it. But none have, as far as I know. DTM tried it for a while, I think, but they've done away with it too. It's obvious to everyone that it's a flawed tool, totally dependent on how it's calibrated - and most times, it's calibrated farcically.

If F1 insists on having a Mario Kart element to negate the effort and patience of setting up a proper overtake, then at least have push-to-pass like IndyCar. At least it has strategic element, though no less farcical in my book.

F1 already has a push-to-pass system (the Overtake button).

But isn't it dependent on the ERS? I figured that'd make it not as consistent as IndyCar's version.

Yes, I think it just increases the ERS deploy rate. But the main point is that it's there, both drivers can use it to overtake OR defend and it can only be used for a limited time. Imagine a DRS system like that.

[SBan83]

DRS needs to go away - if it were such a brilliant solution, many other series would've adopted it. But none have, as far as I know. DTM tried it for a while, I think, but they've done away with it too. It's obvious to everyone that it's a flawed tool, totally dependent on how it's calibrated - and most times, it's calibrated farcically.

If F1 insists on having a Mario Kart element to negate the effort and patience of setting up a proper overtake, then at least have push-to-pass like IndyCar. At least it has strategic element, though no less farcical in my book.

F1 already has a push-to-pass system (the Overtake button).

But isn't it dependent on the ERS? I figured that'd make it not as consistent as IndyCar's version.

Yes, I think it just increases the ERS deploy rate. But the main point is that it's there, both drivers can use it to overtake OR defend and it can only be used for a limited time. Imagine a DRS system like that.

Yeah, having only that would be a lot better than DRS (although again, I'd prefer none of these Fast and Furious style style nitro boosts at all).

[Michael Ferner]

Imagine F1 without all those gizmos. Just get rid of the stupid pit stops, give them hard enough tyres to last the race and we'll have plenty overtaking again, instead of merely changing positions.

[XcraigX]

6. A bit better than I expected thanks to Max starting in the pack. Some decent dicing in the field made it interesting, but not great.

[PTRACER]

Imagine F1 without all those gizmos. Just get rid of the stupid pit stops, give them hard enough tyres to last the race and we'll have plenty overtaking again, instead of merely changing positions.

That would make it even worse. The 90s were magic because of tyre changes and refuelling mixing up the strategy.

[Michael Ferner]

Not for me. 'Magic' was F1 before all that nonsense about strategy came up. In the nineties, I was merely hanging on, hoping it would get better. It didn't, and I stopped altogether in the early noughts. Still don't know why I started watching again, but anyway it's different today. I'm not a 'fan', merely a semi interested follower. I don't 'care' any longer about F1.

[erwin greven]

Not for me. 'Magic' was F1 before all that nonsense about strategy came up. In the nineties, I was merely hanging on, hoping it would get better. It didn't, and I stopped altogether in the early noughts. Still don't know why I started watching again, but anyway it's different today. I'm not a 'fan', merely a semi interested follower. I don't 'care' any longer about F1.

Actually its logical that strategy started to get more and more important in he 90s. Computers started to get better and faster. Teams started to calculate strategies.