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julif wrote: 1 year ago
mattia2 wrote: 1 year ago Well, imho i think that sidecars are gone from the island. I'm sad to say it, but 2 crashes in the same point of the track with devastating consequences for both teams is not a coincidence. They're too fast and too unstable on the bumps, even the birchall's almost lost it at ago's leap this year. Either they slow the sidecars down a lot or they will not be there next year.
... But then again if sidecars will be banned, at least there won't be any more fatalities...
Ban the TT would be the underlying motion, as the same could be said about the singles.
It's wrong though because it's an argument against the freedom of choice. But I'm not surprised that the woke cancel culture is up on the fence against it, using health &safety grounds in their favour.
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Andy wrote: 1 year ago
julif wrote: 1 year ago
mattia2 wrote: 1 year ago Well, imho i think that sidecars are gone from the island. I'm sad to say it, but 2 crashes in the same point of the track with devastating consequences for both teams is not a coincidence. They're too fast and too unstable on the bumps, even the birchall's almost lost it at ago's leap this year. Either they slow the sidecars down a lot or they will not be there next year.
... But then again if sidecars will be banned, at least there won't be any more fatalities...
Ban the TT would be the underlying motion, as the same could be said about the singles.
It's wrong though because it's an argument against the freedom of choice. But I'm not surprised that the woke cancel culture is up on the fence against it, using health &safety grounds in their favour.
Oh no, i'm not talking about the TT itself. I just feel like that sidecars nowadays can't handle the mountain course anymore. This year proves that every bump is a lottery, and if the passenger isn't that experienced it could end easily in a tragedy worst than people can imagine. i just feel like that the TT Organizers need to act about this, one crash is a tragedy two is a problem. And i hope an investigation report will come out soon to udnerstand what happened (even if i'm 100% convinced that the passenger made a mistake on the jump and after that they were gone)
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I don't fancy them banning the sidecars, but they could slow them down to make it "safer" Taking nothing against the freedom of choice that is amazing for those who dream about racing in the TT. They all know how dangerous it is. But maybe it has come to a point where they can look at certain details to improve the safety of the sidecars. With that said however, the TT is never going to be safe, and that's what attracts most people so...
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julif wrote: 1 year ago I don't fancy them banning the sidecars, but they could slow them down to make it "safer" Taking nothing against the freedom of choice that is amazing for those who dream about racing in the TT. They all know how dangerous it is. But maybe it has come to a point where they can look at certain details to improve the safety of the sidecars. With that said however, the TT is never going to be safe, and that's what attracts most people so...
If Mt Everest would be a Sunday walk, not a lot of people would be wanting to do it.
Of course, it isn't and people, even experienced, die there. Yet no one comes to the conclusion of banning the climb.
How'd you improve safety there? 😉
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Andy wrote: 1 year ago
julif wrote: 1 year ago I don't fancy them banning the sidecars, but they could slow them down to make it "safer" Taking nothing against the freedom of choice that is amazing for those who dream about racing in the TT. They all know how dangerous it is. But maybe it has come to a point where they can look at certain details to improve the safety of the sidecars. With that said however, the TT is never going to be safe, and that's what attracts most people so...
If Mt Everest would be a Sunday walk, not a lot of people would be wanting to do it.
Of course, it isn't and people, even experienced, die there. Yet no one comes to the conclusion of banning the climb.
How'd you improve safety there? 😉
I see your point. :wink:
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Andy wrote: 1 year ago How'd you improve safety there? 😉
Install heaters and some piped oxygen :haha:.
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MonteCristo wrote: 1 year ago
Andy wrote: 1 year ago How'd you improve safety there? 😉
Install heaters and some piped oxygen :haha:.
Why not just install a guard rail or better yet, a stair lift? Maybe a series of escalators?
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DoubleFart wrote: 1 year ago
MonteCristo wrote: 1 year ago
Andy wrote: 1 year ago How'd you improve safety there? 😉
Install heaters and some piped oxygen :haha:.
Why not just install a guard rail or better yet, a stair lift? Maybe a series of escalators?
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