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RIP Max Mosley
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Max Moseley has passed at the age of 81.
I didn't like or appreciate him at the time, but as i've gotten older and understood the politics of the sport more, I appreciate his role and efforts far more.
Max Moseley has passed at the age of 81.
I didn't like or appreciate him at the time, but as i've gotten older and understood the politics of the sport more, I appreciate his role and efforts far more.
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If there is one president who did a LOT to make F1 safer, it is him.
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Wow, that's a shock. Lots of controversy surrounding him in his later life, but did a lot for F1.
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He went to the burial of Roland, while the others went to Senna's funeral.
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Without doubt he made F1 better.... and he gave us all a laugh with some of his antics.
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Certainly.... I thought that was a noble gesture on his part.erwin greven wrote: ↑3 years ago He went to the burial of Roland, while the others went to Senna's funeral.
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I never liked the guy but a death is always sad. I am very sorry for his family and friends.
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Thought I might copy the Autosport report on his passing for those that cannot access Autosport.
I learn something I was unaware off until now.... Obviously I was aware of Max having driven in F2 back in the day, but I was not aware (or had forgotten) Max was running at Hockenheim the day Jim Clark died.
I was also unaware it was Max who was responsible for the introduction of the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) road car crash test standards which has become something of a world standar in car safety (It is certainly widely quoted in all our car reviews as to how a new car performed in the tests).
I learn something I was unaware off until now.... Obviously I was aware of Max having driven in F2 back in the day, but I was not aware (or had forgotten) Max was running at Hockenheim the day Jim Clark died.
I was also unaware it was Max who was responsible for the introduction of the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) road car crash test standards which has become something of a world standar in car safety (It is certainly widely quoted in all our car reviews as to how a new car performed in the tests).
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/forme ... s-aged-81/Former FIA president Max Mosley dies aged 81
By: Jonathan Noble
May 25, 2021, 12:17 AM
Former FIA president Max Mosley, who was once the most powerful man in motor racing, has died aged 81.
Former FIA president Max Mosley dies aged 81
The Briton was FIA president from 1993 to 2009, having previously carved out a successful career as a barrister, amateur racing driver and founder and co-owner of March Engineering.
Mosley was born in 1940, the son of fascist politician Sir Oswald Mosley and Lady Diana Mosley, who was one of the famous Mitford sisters.
After training as a lawyer, Mosley was an amateur racer in sportscars and later Formula 2, famously competing in the 1968 Hockenheim race where Jim Clark lost his life.
He retired from driving in 1969 to co-found March Engineering, which went on to become one of the world’s most famous manufacturers of racing cars.
During this period he became a legal advisor to the Formula One Constructors’ Association (FOCA), and helped frame the original Concorde Agreement which governed F1 for decades.
In 1986, he was elected as president of the FISA’s Manufacturers’ Commission, and then became FISA president in 1991.
As part of a restructuring of motor racing's governing body, with the FIA taking control of automobiles and racing, he was elected as president of the FIA in 1993 after Jean-Marie Balestre stood down.
Mosley began a major push for improved safety standards in road cars, and faced a similar crusade in F1 following the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna at the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix.
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On the roads, he drove forward strengthened crash test standards and was instrumental in promoting the European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro NCAP) that has now become a standard.
In F1, he led changes to make the cars safer – both through reduced performance, improved crash tests and also devices like HANS.
But his tenure at the FIA, having been re-elected in 1997, 2001 and 2005, was not without its controversy.
He was a close ally of Bernie Ecclestone and the pair formed a strong alliance in frequent battles with manufacturers and teams for control of F1.
Mosley was heavily involved in the decision to push ahead with the farcical 2005 United States Grand Prix at Indianapolis, even though all the Michelin runners had to pull out of the event before the start.
There was also the famous McLaren spy scandal in 2007, where Mosley took a hardline stance against the team for its involvement in the affair.
Mosley’s tenure at the FIA ended soon after he was the subject of a tabloid expose in 2008 by the News of the World relating to his sex life.
While Mosley took the newspaper to court and won a court case that it had breached his privacy, and also won a vote of confidence from the FIA in the wake of the controversy, he eventually elected not to stand for re-election in 2009.
Mosley was recently the subject of a new film documentary about his life, which is due for release soon.
Speaking about the project last year, Mosley said: “It’s got everything in it, including the News of the World and what’s happened since. Bernie’s interview is interesting, because they go into the whole thing of 'whose side was he on when the story came out?'
“Someone asked, 'does it include Hitler being a guest as his parents’ wedding?' The answer is yes it does. It is a warts and all thing, and that probably makes it more interesting to third parties.
“There are one or two elements in it that if I were in charge, I would cut out. But then it would take away the whole point of it – it needs to be independent.”
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Without doubt, his presidency marked the beginning of the end of the sport I once loved, and for that I will always hate him. However, he once started out as an enthusiast just like us, and I gather his stint at the head of the FIA was rather successful if racing is excluded, so I'll give him that. Also, a family background like that cannot have been easy to live with.
Controversy aside, it's always sad to see someone go. RIP, Mr. Mosley.
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Just heard in the news. He did a lot for f1
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I was not aware that he had been suffering from cancer for some time. Sadly he suffered badly and was in pain for much of his later life..
Bernie Ecclestone confirmed Max's death on Monday afternoon.
Bernie Ecclestone confirmed Max's death on Monday afternoon.
He said: “It’s like losing family, like losing a brother, Max and I. “We were like brothers for 50-odd years,”
“I am pleased in a way because he suffered for too long. Better he’s gone than suffer the way he was suffering.”
He did, a lot of good things not just for motorsport, also the (car) industry he was very good in making sure people built cars that were safe.
Assessing what made their partnership work given their different backgrounds, Ecclestone added: "We came from different sorts of upbringings but we just got on well together.
"We trusted each other, which is the most important thing, and we could talk to each other if one of us had an idea or wanted to do something, and not upset each other.
"We ended up doing so many things for F1, and we both did things in different ways.
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One has to say Mosley's discipline fitted very well with Ecclestone's greed.
Never liked Mosley to begin with, coming from a fascist family made his a lost cause for me though the Liberty clowns made him look acceptable by 2021 standards.
Never liked Mosley to begin with, coming from a fascist family made his a lost cause for me though the Liberty clowns made him look acceptable by 2021 standards.
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