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Sorry for the double post, but what kind of girly market are they aiming this at?Everso Biggyballies wrote:Pink to be the face of V8SC in 2010
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A couple of highlights from Abu Dhabi for me:
As a 888 supporter I was glad to see them take a 1-2, and equally thought the demise of HRT as the #1 Holden team was pretty total with a disaser of a weekend, both cars out of the first race and doing little better in the second.
It has not happened in Australia where a top team has switched brands having won the championship in one, and then opened the next years championship with a whitewash win in a different brand.
Mind you, with the demise of HRT it was not the Holden domination many predicted, with Ford taking the top positions behind the 888 Holdens. I think the top 10 ended up pretty much 50/50 in the end.
Quite amusing comment from one of the Kelly Girls about Paul Morris.
Todd Kelly - #7 Jack Daniel's Racing Holden Commodore:
Referring to Paul Morris ...
EDIT: Thought it might be good to post the pointscore as of end round 1 at Abu Dhabi (races 1&2)
SERIES POINTS REPORT
Pos Driver Penalty R1 R2 Total
1 Jamie Whincup 0 150 150 300
2 Mark Winterbottom 0 129 138 267
3 Craig Lowndes 0 138 111 249
4 Shane Van Gisbergen 0 102 129 231
5 James Courtney 0 120 102 222
6 Lee Holdsworth 0 111 96 207
7 Rick Kelly 0 78 120 198
8 Paul Dumbrell 0 96 69 165
9 Steven Johnson 10 72 90 152
10 Jonathon Webb 0 90 51 141
11 Michael Caruso 0 60 72 132
12 Tim Slade 0 63 66 129
13 Jason Bargwanna 0 66 60 126
14 Jason Bright 0 42 78 120
15 Jason Richards 0 69 42 111
16 Fabian Coulthard 0 54 57 111
17 Steven Richards 0 57 54 111
18 Alex Davison 0 84 24 108
19 Russell Ingall 0 24 84 108
20 Tony D'Alberto 0 51 48 99
21 Dean Fiore 0 45 39 84
22 Andrew Thompson 10 48 45 83
23 Daniel Gaunt 0 39 33 72
24 Tony Ricciardello 0 33 30 63
25 Will Davison 0 0 63 63
26 Todd Kelly 0 30 27 57
27 Karl Reindler 0 0 36 36
28 Garth Tander 0 27 0 27
29 Paul Morris 10 36 0 26
As a 888 supporter I was glad to see them take a 1-2, and equally thought the demise of HRT as the #1 Holden team was pretty total with a disaser of a weekend, both cars out of the first race and doing little better in the second.
It has not happened in Australia where a top team has switched brands having won the championship in one, and then opened the next years championship with a whitewash win in a different brand.
Mind you, with the demise of HRT it was not the Holden domination many predicted, with Ford taking the top positions behind the 888 Holdens. I think the top 10 ended up pretty much 50/50 in the end.
Quite amusing comment from one of the Kelly Girls about Paul Morris.
Todd Kelly - #7 Jack Daniel's Racing Holden Commodore:
Referring to Paul Morris ...
At least Morris wont be running this weekend as the cars nip down the road to take in the Bahrain 400.... he was only subbing last week for regular driver Greg Murphy who was previously committed to hosting the Top Gear New Zealand live broadcast."Never in my life have I come across such a peanut of a bloke," said Todd Kelly.
"He's renowned for it and he ought to be congratulated for having a racing license as long as he has because he's a first-class fruit bat.
EDIT: Thought it might be good to post the pointscore as of end round 1 at Abu Dhabi (races 1&2)
SERIES POINTS REPORT
Pos Driver Penalty R1 R2 Total
1 Jamie Whincup 0 150 150 300
2 Mark Winterbottom 0 129 138 267
3 Craig Lowndes 0 138 111 249
4 Shane Van Gisbergen 0 102 129 231
5 James Courtney 0 120 102 222
6 Lee Holdsworth 0 111 96 207
7 Rick Kelly 0 78 120 198
8 Paul Dumbrell 0 96 69 165
9 Steven Johnson 10 72 90 152
10 Jonathon Webb 0 90 51 141
11 Michael Caruso 0 60 72 132
12 Tim Slade 0 63 66 129
13 Jason Bargwanna 0 66 60 126
14 Jason Bright 0 42 78 120
15 Jason Richards 0 69 42 111
16 Fabian Coulthard 0 54 57 111
17 Steven Richards 0 57 54 111
18 Alex Davison 0 84 24 108
19 Russell Ingall 0 24 84 108
20 Tony D'Alberto 0 51 48 99
21 Dean Fiore 0 45 39 84
22 Andrew Thompson 10 48 45 83
23 Daniel Gaunt 0 39 33 72
24 Tony Ricciardello 0 33 30 63
25 Will Davison 0 0 63 63
26 Todd Kelly 0 30 27 57
27 Karl Reindler 0 0 36 36
28 Garth Tander 0 27 0 27
29 Paul Morris 10 36 0 26
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Bahrain 400 Round 2.
Early practice is showing Vodafone 888 as being the ones to beat again
Good to see Lowndes beating Whincup, hopefully that will be the way in the races too.
Combined fastest times from P1,2,3,4.
(Individual sessions from http://www.natsoft.biz/cgi-bin/results.cgi?2010 )
Pos Car Competitor/Team Driver Vehicle Cap CL Fastest Lap Gap
1 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:05.3174R
2 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:05.6104r 0:00.2930
3 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:05.7015r 0:00.3841
4 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 5000 P4 2:05.7233 0:00.4059
5 6 Dunlop Super Dealer FPR Falcon Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.1176 0:00.8002
6 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.3512 0:01.0338
7 14 Trading Post Racing Jason Bright Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:06.4957 0:01.1783
8 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.5810 0:01.2636
9 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.6384 0:01.3210
10 51 Castrol Edge Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.6954 0:01.3780
11 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.7540 0:01.4366
12 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.7822 0:01.4648
13 47 Wilson Security Racing Tim Slade Ford Falcon FG 5000 P4 2:06.8033 0:01.4859
14 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.9895 0:01.6721
15 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.1166 0:01.7992
16 5 Orrcon Steel FPR Falcon Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.1988 0:01.8814
17 34 Fujitsu Racing / GRM Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.2721 0:01.9547
18 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Paul Dumbrell Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.4845 0:02.1671
19 11 Rock Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.6575 0:02.3401
20 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:07.8254 0:02.5080
21 33 Fujitsu Racing / GRM Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.8399 0:02.5225
22 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.8533 0:02.5359
23 19 Dick Johnson Racing Jonathon Webb Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.9331 0:02.6157
24 10 Bundaberg Red Racing Team Andrew Thompson Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.9970 0:02.6796
25 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team Fabian Coulthard Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.0153 0:02.6979
26 3 Centaur Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.0697 0:02.7523
27 30 Gulf Western Oil Racing Daniel Gaunt Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:08.2763 0:02.9589
28 21 Fair Dinkum Sheds Racing Karl Reindler Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.7296 0:03.4122
29 16 Supermax Racing Tony Ricciardello Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.9686 0:03.6512
Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 155kph, 105% Of First 1 Is 2:11.5833
Current Practice Record Is 2:05.7015 Set On 25/02/2010 By Todd Kelly In A Holden Commodore VE
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time
Early practice is showing Vodafone 888 as being the ones to beat again
Good to see Lowndes beating Whincup, hopefully that will be the way in the races too.
Combined fastest times from P1,2,3,4.
(Individual sessions from http://www.natsoft.biz/cgi-bin/results.cgi?2010 )
Pos Car Competitor/Team Driver Vehicle Cap CL Fastest Lap Gap
1 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:05.3174R
2 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:05.6104r 0:00.2930
3 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:05.7015r 0:00.3841
4 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 5000 P4 2:05.7233 0:00.4059
5 6 Dunlop Super Dealer FPR Falcon Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.1176 0:00.8002
6 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.3512 0:01.0338
7 14 Trading Post Racing Jason Bright Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:06.4957 0:01.1783
8 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.5810 0:01.2636
9 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.6384 0:01.3210
10 51 Castrol Edge Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.6954 0:01.3780
11 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.7540 0:01.4366
12 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:06.7822 0:01.4648
13 47 Wilson Security Racing Tim Slade Ford Falcon FG 5000 P4 2:06.8033 0:01.4859
14 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:06.9895 0:01.6721
15 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.1166 0:01.7992
16 5 Orrcon Steel FPR Falcon Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.1988 0:01.8814
17 34 Fujitsu Racing / GRM Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.2721 0:01.9547
18 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Paul Dumbrell Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.4845 0:02.1671
19 11 Rock Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.6575 0:02.3401
20 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:07.8254 0:02.5080
21 33 Fujitsu Racing / GRM Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.8399 0:02.5225
22 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.8533 0:02.5359
23 19 Dick Johnson Racing Jonathon Webb Ford Falcon FG 5000 P3 2:07.9331 0:02.6157
24 10 Bundaberg Red Racing Team Andrew Thompson Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:07.9970 0:02.6796
25 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team Fabian Coulthard Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.0153 0:02.6979
26 3 Centaur Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.0697 0:02.7523
27 30 Gulf Western Oil Racing Daniel Gaunt Holden Commodore VE 5000 P4 2:08.2763 0:02.9589
28 21 Fair Dinkum Sheds Racing Karl Reindler Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.7296 0:03.4122
29 16 Supermax Racing Tony Ricciardello Holden Commodore VE 5000 P3 2:08.9686 0:03.6512
Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 155kph, 105% Of First 1 Is 2:11.5833
Current Practice Record Is 2:05.7015 Set On 25/02/2010 By Todd Kelly In A Holden Commodore VE
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time
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"It has not happened in Australia where a top team has switched brands having won the championship in one, and then opened the next years championship with a whitewash win in a different brand."
As I understand it the V8s are 2 brands only, Ford and Holden, and the only difference is the engine Ford or Holden and the panels tacked on the outside.
Team probably doesn't even know there is a difference!
Formula Oligopoly!
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Everso Above
"It has not happened in Australia where a top team has switched brands having won the championship in one, and then opened the next years championship with a whitewash win in a different brand."
As I understand it the V8s are 2 brands only, Ford and Holden, and the only difference is the engine Ford or Holden and the panels tacked on the outside.
Team probably doesn't even know there is a difference!
Formula Oligopoly!
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Well not quite but basically they do have 'Parity' rules that make them similar in chassis performance, although they each are based on their own (albeit heavily modified) chassis. They use a lot of common parts and have similar amounts of aero.
Hopefully it wont be l;ong now before we get a third make involved. With both Ford and Holden reducing the factory input and involvement there is less reason to listen to their duopoly demands.
Hopefully it wont be l;ong now before we get a third make involved. With both Ford and Holden reducing the factory input and involvement there is less reason to listen to their duopoly demands.
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Not sure if you guys get your qualifying coverage seperate to race coverage but in case there are some who look in here and would be offended, Qualifying report is in the spoiler.
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Does anyone know what Leanne Tander is going to drive this year?
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I know she drove in the Bathurst 12 hour modified production race a couple of weeks ago and came in 14th overall, 2nd in class driving an Integra S I think it was. From memory the car was on class pole position, although not sure who did the time (there were 3 drivers per team)wnut wrote:Does anyone know what Leanne Tander is going to drive this year?
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Thanks Everso
I would like to see her with a top drive, I think she could shake the order up a bit.
As a side note, it would be good if they made all the drivers for n endurance event qualify the car and then averaged the time achieved by all the drivers to determine the grid.
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I would like to see her with a top drive, I think she could shake the order up a bit.
As a side note, it would be good if they made all the drivers for n endurance event qualify the car and then averaged the time achieved by all the drivers to determine the grid.
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lol at Todd Kelly's comment. Watched some highlights of the first round on youtube and my two immediate conclusions were that Whincup is still the best driver in the field, and that Morris is still the worst driver in the field.
Van Gisbergen certainly has raw pace, and is a flamboyant driver which I like. I just hope for the Stone Brothers sake he can improve his consistency this year. He could become one of the top Ford threats.
Van Gisbergen certainly has raw pace, and is a flamboyant driver which I like. I just hope for the Stone Brothers sake he can improve his consistency this year. He could become one of the top Ford threats.
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Thankfully Morris was only doing Abu Dhabi.
Whincup and Team Vodafone are still the best
Whincup and Team Vodafone are still the best
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Just saw the Abu Dhabi race, seemed quite good actually - first V8 race I have watched in about 4 years.
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Abu Dhabi or Bahrain? Bahrain was better in my opinion. And I am no real fan of the V8's these days.
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