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One fight in a season - rare and somewhat enjoyable / acceptableMore than one fight in a season - petulant children and unnacceptable
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One fight in a season - rare and somewhat enjoyable / acceptablekals wrote:One fight in a season - rare and somewhat enjoyable / acceptable
More than one fight in a season - petulant children and unnacceptable
Emotions are running high but these guys are highly paid public figures and are supposed to be role models, they are supposed to be professionals and act accordingly. Regardless of the competition, these fights are becoming somewhat of the norm. That's unacceptable. We all work, we all dislike certain things about our work environment and the conduct of people around us. But if we were to physically assault our peers then there would be serious repercussions. End of story. I'm fine with an altercation of some sort but only if it is a one-off. I'd prefer neither a Twitter "spat" or a fight, but if I were to choose between then I'll go with the Twitter thing.SB83 wrote:I'm not going to get on my high horse and call these guys unprofessional or anything. I'd rather have this any day over drivers acting like polite little corporate spokespersons and verbal sparring on Twitter like Button and Hamilton.
Agreed, but no-one is denying that.SB83 wrote:Surely NASCAR has a better understanding of what the corporations want than you or me.
You couldn't be more wrong here Sandeep. My employer of 10 years is a global corporation which employs over 20,000 people and since January 2013 the entiire company has being going through a process of change. I won't bore you with the details but suffice to say I am at the coal face of understanding what a corporation needs to do to demand changes.SB83 wrote:FWhat you fail to realize is that a corporation cannot just demand changes to suit its needs.
It's 3 times isn't it in 2014? Mears and Ambrose, Kenseth and Brad, now Gordon and Brad. Make that 4 times in you go back around a year to the Logano and Stewart clash. Let's keep the competitiveness and emotion, have some shouting matches if needed, but mass brawls and physical violence doesn't need to happen. That's all. I'm only commenting because of the recent frequency. The same as I did those years ago when Edwards kept running Brad off into walls and when Kyle Busch kept melting down on track.SB83 wrote:The corporations got behind it knowing what the history and perception of the sport has been for over 50 years and this sort of thing is part of it. And I don't know why you keep saying this is a regular occurance. It only happened twice this year out of over 35 weekends, that too near the end when it was expected to happen given the way this year's Chase has been structured..
Kieran, I meant a corporation that is a SPONSOR in NASCAR cannot demand that NASCAR (not the corporation LOL) be changed in order to suit the corporation's image. Point being they cannot say oh we don't like to see fighting so ban plz or we quit. They got into the sport knowing full well about it. Like muslims in Britain demanding British laws change to suit them.kals wrote:You couldn't be more wrong here Sandeep. My employer of 10 years is a global corporation which employs over 20,000 people and since January 2013 the entiire company has being going through a process of change. I won't bore you with the details but suffice to say I am at the coal face of understanding what a corporation needs to do to demand changes.SB83 wrote:FWhat you fail to realize is that a corporation cannot just demand changes to suit its needs.
I forgot about Mears and Ambrose but Logano and Stewart was last year and it was nothing but a little shoulder grab by Stewart on Logano. Anyway, that still by no means makes it 'the norm' in a 30+ race season so far.kals wrote:It's 3 times isn't it in 2014? Mears and Ambrose, Kenseth and Brad, now Gordon and Brad. Make that 4 times in you go back around a year to the Logano and Stewart clash. Let's keep the competitiveness and emotion, have some shouting matches if needed, but mass brawls and physical violence doesn't need to happen. That's all. I'm only commenting because of the recent frequency. The same as I did those years ago when Edwards kept running Brad off into walls and when Kyle Busch kept melting down on track.SB83 wrote:The corporations got behind it knowing what the history and perception of the sport has been for over 50 years and this sort of thing is part of it. And I don't know why you keep saying this is a regular occurance. It only happened twice this year out of over 35 weekends, that too near the end when it was expected to happen given the way this year's Chase has been structured..