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Bottom post of the previous page:

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Conor used that. Team poured water on him during the pit stops also.
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Nice track, decent race. Still I am not excited about returning to this series. It isn’t the series it was in the 1980a and 1990s. Sixth place held down by 44-year old Takuma Sato. He did not exactly set the F1 world on fire during his time in F1. He was followed on track by Marcus Erickson, a less embarrassing paying F1 driver then Latifi and Mazepin.

The days when Indy Car was graduating drivers into F1 like Andretti, Villenueve, Montoya, Zanardi and Bourdias still seems very much in the distant past. The cars look tame compared to F1.
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maybe you should judge drivers after their 2 Indy 500 wins, not by their stint in F1 15 years ago
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago
The days when Indy Car was graduating drivers into F1 like Andretti, Villenueve, Montoya, Zanardi and Bourdias still seems very much in the distant past. The cars look tame compared to F1.
Unlike F1 which is packed with stars like Latifi, Mazepin, Stroll, Giovanazzi, a 60 year old Kimi, and a 70 year old Alonso. What's your point? That Indycar isn't what it was? We know.

It's still a damn good racing series.
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I'd argue that the likes of Dixon, Newgarden and Herta could have been F1 stars given an upbringing on the European ladder. I still don't rule out Herta, but it's a VERY slim chance. He needs to talk nicely to somebody and get in on a filming day or young driver test or something.
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago Sixth place held down by 44-year old Takuma Sato. He did not exactly set the F1 world on fire during his time in F1.
In 1988 during the second round of the series at Long Beach, Rocky Moran finished 6th. Rocky Moran is meh.

In 1989 during the second round of the series at Long Beach, Raul Boesel finished 6th. At least he made it to F1, and landed three podiums during his 14-year Indycar career, including the 500.

And if age matters, in 1988 Mario Andretti was 48 years old. In 1989 Emerson Fittipaldi was 43, and won the series.
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago Sixth place held down by 44-year old Takuma Sato. He did not exactly set the F1 world on fire during his time in F1.
He tried hard enough (to set the world on fire) :haha:



As an aside he likes Indy. He ggot an F1 podium there, the best of the rest in the Ferrari dominated 2004. Plus of course his 500 results and win (almost 2 wins)
He was also the UK F3 champion back in the day when it was competitive. He also won the Macao GP which puts him up there with an elite group.
Some of his performances in the Super Aguri were pretty special. I remember him passing Alonso and Ralf Schumacher in his McLaren round the outside at Canada.

In fact:



But yes he also had some less special days. :smiley:

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@Everso Biggyballies Sato has two Indy 500 wins! :dunno:

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Vassago wrote: 2 years ago @Everso Biggyballies Sato has two Indy 500 wins! :dunno:

PS. Jimmie Johnson has single-handedly caused 60% of cautions in IndyCar this season. Milka Duno would be proud of such rating! :tongue:
Yeah I couldnt remember if it was one win nearly 2 or 2 wins nearly 3. I remember he spun out of the lead on the final lap once. I was going to check when I typed it out.... then my phone rang and I got sidetracked so forgot to check and correct it. Thanks for pointing it out. I remembered he was the first non caucasian to win the 500, just could not clearly remember his second win or whether he had got pipped at the post.kayak name history

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 years ago
Vassago wrote: 2 years ago @Everso Biggyballies Sato has two Indy 500 wins! :dunno:

PS. Jimmie Johnson has single-handedly caused 60% of cautions in IndyCar this season. Milka Duno would be proud of such rating! :tongue:
Yeah I couldnt remember if it was one win nearly 2 or 2 wins nearly 3. I remember he spun out of the lead on the final lap once. I was going to check when I typed it out.... then my phone rang and I got sidetracked so forgot to check and correct it. Thanks for pointing it out. I remembered he was the first non caucasian to win the 500, just could not clearly remember his second win or whether he had got pipped at the post.kayak name history
He didn't spin out of the lead to miss out on the win. He was running 2nd and went banzai all-in on Franchitti on the last lap back in 2012. At the time I thought be blew one-in-a-lifetime chance just like JR Hildebrand the year before. I was wrong about that one :cool:

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I do believe he was technically half a foot or a foot in front when he spun.

But yeah, I thought that would be his one shot as well!
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago Nice track, decent race. Still I am not excited about returning to this series. It isn’t the series it was in the 1980a and 1990s. Sixth place held down by 44-year old Takuma Sato. He did not exactly set the F1 world on fire during his time in F1. He was followed on track by Marcus Erickson, a less embarrassing paying F1 driver then Latifi and Mazepin.

The days when Indy Car was graduating drivers into F1 like Andretti, Villenueve, Montoya, Zanardi and Bourdias still seems very much in the distant past. The cars look tame compared to F1.
Well sorry to you guys if my remarks left you cold (@John @MonteCristo @Everso Biggyballies). In many respects, they were addressed to me. I have always been an big F1 fan. I was a big CART fan in the 1980s and 1990s, but watched it get destroyed by Tony George. So the reason I was back to watching the first two races of this season was actually because a couple of people on this forum are talking it up. So I figured I would give it another chance. I am sorry, but it did not really do the trick. Probably not going to invest the time to follow another series, as F1 is actually getting better now.
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago
Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago Nice track, decent race. Still I am not excited about returning to this series. It isn’t the series it was in the 1980a and 1990s. Sixth place held down by 44-year old Takuma Sato. He did not exactly set the F1 world on fire during his time in F1. He was followed on track by Marcus Erickson, a less embarrassing paying F1 driver then Latifi and Mazepin.

The days when Indy Car was graduating drivers into F1 like Andretti, Villenueve, Montoya, Zanardi and Bourdias still seems very much in the distant past. The cars look tame compared to F1.
Well sorry to you guys if my remarks left you cold (@John @MonteCristo @Everso Biggyballies). In many respects, they were addressed to me. I have always been an big F1 fan. I was a big CART fan in the 1980s and 1990s, but watched it get destroyed by Tony George. So the reason I was back to watching the first two races of this season was actually because a couple of people on this forum are talking it up. So I figured I would give it another chance. I am sorry, but it did not really do the trick. Probably not going to invest the time to follow another series, as F1 is actually getting better now.
Oh that's fair enough bud. I think most, if not all of us remember when Indy used to be F1 1.5. It's still reeling from the split and will probably continue to do so for a decade yet.
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago
Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago Nice track, decent race. Still I am not excited about returning to this series. It isn’t the series it was in the 1980a and 1990s. Sixth place held down by 44-year old Takuma Sato. He did not exactly set the F1 world on fire during his time in F1. He was followed on track by Marcus Erickson, a less embarrassing paying F1 driver then Latifi and Mazepin.

The days when Indy Car was graduating drivers into F1 like Andretti, Villenueve, Montoya, Zanardi and Bourdias still seems very much in the distant past. The cars look tame compared to F1.
Well sorry to you guys if my remarks left you cold (@John @MonteCristo @Everso Biggyballies). In many respects, they were addressed to me. I have always been an big F1 fan. I was a big CART fan in the 1980s and 1990s, but watched it get destroyed by Tony George. So the reason I was back to watching the first two races of this season was actually because a couple of people on this forum are talking it up. So I figured I would give it another chance. I am sorry, but it did not really do the trick. Probably not going to invest the time to follow another series, as F1 is actually getting better now.
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago
Well sorry to you guys if my remarks left you cold (@John @MonteCristo @Everso Biggyballies). In many respects, they were addressed to me. I have always been an big F1 fan. I was a big CART fan in the 1980s and 1990s, but watched it get destroyed by Tony George. So the reason I was back to watching the first two races of this season was actually because a couple of people on this forum are talking it up. So I figured I would give it another chance. I am sorry, but it did not really do the trick. Probably not going to invest the time to follow another series, as F1 is actually getting better now.
No skin off my nose. I am not a fervent follower of Indycar by any means, and personalyl do not get excited about ovals. My interest in Indycar this year is primarily down to following how the Ex F1 mob get on, especially the rookies, and other foreigners. Plus of course Scotty Mac due to his local connection with his V8SC background. In other words the interlopers trying something different to Euro / Asian racing. Plus the fear of missing out on something! :wink: And it is motor racing. :whistling:

The timing of the live broadcasts doesnt usually suit me in local time, and also the ad infested coverage and usually high content of FCY's doesnt do much towards keeping me awake.

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