John wrote: ↑3 years ago
Indeed. Ferrari with it's current structure is still way over the budget cap. It's either laying off staff or finding another series for them to work with.
But with the way the world currently is, you're not going to retain staff for no reason. Indycar has to make financial sense.
Ferrari has a limit to its production numbers. It would make more sense for them to badge Alfa's or something.
Don't you come here spitting facts and logic.
That said, the North American market matters for Ferrari. If it makes sense from a business stand point and depending on the shape of the company itself these days, I would love to see it happen.
John wrote: ↑3 years agoThat said, the North American market matters for Ferrari. If it makes sense from a business stand point and depending on the shape of the company itself these days, I would love to see it happen.
But I don't expect it to happen.
The market matters for F for sure; but enough to go to all that trouble? Ford and Honda I understand. ferrari/ Not so.....
I wouldn't have minded F in CART, but unless Penske brings back individual chassis/engine design, and not spec, I wouldn't want to see them do it. 'Would lower my respect for it and I bet Enzo would be rolling over......(as he prolly did a half turn when whoever it was stuck a Judd in the "Dallara/Michelotto" 333 SP...)
Those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end.....
In a July interview, IndyCar Series owner Roger Penske said Ferrari was his sole focus for securing a third manufacturer. With the new engine formula confirmation and commitments from both Chevy and Honda, Denker says talks with the famous Italian brand continue, and other manufacturers have joined in the conversation regarding 2023.
“The ongoing dialogue (between) Roger and Ferrari is the closest opportunity here because that dialogue continues,” Denker added. “And when I say who’s having a dialogue, it’s Roger Penske. I give him great credit to develop those conversations, and they continue. Are there are others interested? Yes. But I think the most material conversation still continues to be Ferrari. When Roger Penske’s driving it, I give that some good credibility.
In other words, no news.
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This rumour just wont go away.... Big R has fired it up again.....
Indycar still in talks with Ferrari on building 2023 engine - Penske
Penske says that conversations are ongoing with Ferrari over building an IndyCar engine when the series switches to 2.4-litre hybrids in 2023.
In May this year, Ferrari Formula 1 team principal Mattia Binotto said that the Scuderia was evaluating the possibility of entering IndyCar when F1's budget cap comes into force.
Rather than make employees redundant, Binotto explained that Ferrari would seek to find series that fit the marque's criteria, as it "feels a lot of social responsibility towards its employees and we want to be sure that for each of them there will be a workspace in the future".
IndyCar was due to adopt its new engine formula in 2022, but this was deferred by a year to spread out costs for teams impacted by the coronavirus pandemic and to allow prospective new entrants to join Honda and Chevrolet, the manufacturers of the current 2.2-litre twin-turbo V6 engines.
Reports in Italy suggest that Ferrari eschew an IndyCar engine programme and instead follow Peugeot and Audi in committing resources to a Le Mans programme, following confirmation to Autosport in August that it was evaluating a Le Mans Hypercar programme.
Ferrari has been a fixture in the GTE-Pro class at Le Mans during the FIA World Endurance Championship era, winning its class in 2012, 2014 and 2019, but hasn't won overall since the NART-entered Ferrari 250LM of Jochen Rindt and Masten Gregory prevailed in 1965.
It remains the third most successful manufacturer in the history of the 24 Hours, with nine wins between 1949 and 1965.
But in response to Autosport's enquiry regarding IndyCar, series owner Roger Penske responded with a written statement in which he revealed that conversations with Maranello are ongoing.
"Attracting additional OEMs is one of our key strategies for the IndyCar Series," said Penske, whose eponymous outfit competed with Ferraris in Can-Am in the 1970s.
"We continue to have in depth conversations with several different companies who remain interested in joining the sport.
"Ferrari is one of those brands who have shown interest and we remain in conversations with them about the opportunity to join IndyCar."
IndyCar last had three race-winning engine manufacturers in 2005, when Toyota competed against Honda and Chevrolet.
It has not had a third manufacturer since 2012, when Lotus produced underpowered units that the majority of its customers quickly traded for alternative suppliers.
jimclark wrote: ↑3 years ago
As in Ferrari to IndyCar.
I seriously hope not as I don't want to see it waste it's efforts on a spec series.......'twould be below them in my eyes.....
I'd rather see them go back to sportscars with an LMDh for WEC and IMSA.
If it ended up in a status-quo spec series, then yes, in the medium to long term I grudgingly agree.
But the hope would be that if Ferrari entered Indycar it would spark the series into a level of life where perhaps some yet another manufacturer, and hopefully another chassis manufacturer could enter - or a properly functioning revival of the aero kit concept (I honestly don't mind a spec safety cell - even in F1 it would be fine in my books). But it's one thing to hope, dream and wish it would happen, and another thing entirely for that fairy-floss world to materialise.
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