Ferrari to Indycar rumour thread

Including the Indy 500 and all junior series leading up to IndyCar

Will it happen?

Yes! Ferrari to Indycar. *make it happen noises*
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Ferrari to Indycar rumour thread

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Probably worth its own thread, seeing as we have room to stretch out now with our own sub forum...

https://racer.com/2020/07/11/indycar-fo ... -supplier/
NTT IndyCar Series owner Roger Penske says the quest to sign a new engine partner is focused on Ferrari, and Ferrari alone, as talks continue with Scuderia Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto to have the manufacturer join the series when its 2.4-liter twin-turbo hybrid V6 engine formula arrives in 2022

“Our focus has been on Ferrari,” Penske confirmed. “I’ve been in contact with them directly, with Mattia Binotto in the last few days, answering questions. They’re taking a very serious look at this opportunity. It’s an area they haven’t competed in before as a team.

“This is their biggest market worldwide from the standpoint of the brand, but I think it could be a real opportunity for them. Also, it would be a start of bringing them into the IndyCar series. I think it’s only fair to work on one at a time.”

Through Penske’s longstanding ties with General Motors, Chevrolet returned to IndyCar competition in 2012 with Ilmor Engineering, the specialist racing engine constructor co-founded by Mario Illien, Paul Morgan and Penske. Honda, through its Honda Performance Development racing division, has maintained a consistent presence in IndyCar since joining the CART IndyCar Series in 1994. Both brands share the current engine supply needs for the series, and while IndyCar is hopeful to sign the pair to new agreements for 2022 and beyond, the need to add a third engine partner remains.

“I want to take this one all the way and see where we end up, but there’s been lots of dialogue (from Ferrari) with the IndyCar people,” Penske added. “They’ve made a trip to Dallara, so this is not an idle discussion. Now, do we have an answer yet? The answer is no, but I’ve got this one on the front of my calendar every day.”
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Ferrari should put their money into getting an F1 car that can finish in the Top 10. Although now they don't have to waste their money on a faltering ex-champion..... :happy:
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I wonder if Carlos Sainz ever heard back from Jenson Button..... :wink: :)

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PTRACER wrote: 3 years ago Ferrari should put their money into getting an F1 car that can finish in the Top 10. Although now they don't have to waste their money on a faltering ex-champion..... :happy:
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PTRACER wrote: 3 years ago Ferrari should put their money into getting an F1 car that can finish in the Top 10. Although now they don't have to waste their money on a faltering ex-champion..... :happy:
Faltering ex-worldchampions are not new to Ferrari: Jody Scheckter, Alain Prost. They all had to cope with a car that did not want to do, for what it was designed for: racing. Going fast.
Vettel gets a lot of bashing. And indeed he had lesser results than Alonso had in his years in Ferrari. But please, look at the team too. I want to see how motivated Leclerc will be in 3 - 4 years when they can not give him a decent car in which he can fight for the title.
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erwin greven wrote: 3 years ago I want to see how motivated Leclerc will be in 3 - 4 years when they can not give him a decent car in which he can fight for the title.
Very good point.

He's currently young, still learning, keen to impress - and most importantly, is impressing. He doesn't *need* to win right now. But after another year or two of that and thinking he should be winning races if not titles - assuming Ferrari continues to go backwards he'll either get itchy feet and leave or his performance will suffer.

It's not a greatly different situation to Vettel who knows he can win if he has the equipment - but he doesn't.

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Still, I'd love to see Ferrari in Indycar. If only to see them to get beaten by Chevy :P.
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Sooo... Will this rumour totally die with Ferrari signing up to the new Concorde Agreement?
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MonteCristo wrote: 3 years ago Sooo... Will this rumour totally die with Ferrari signing up to the new Concorde Agreement?
Was it ever more than clickbait in a time of limited motor sport news beyond an update of cancelled events, journalists cramped for things to write about? Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story etc. :wink:

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 3 years ago
MonteCristo wrote: 3 years ago Sooo... Will this rumour totally die with Ferrari signing up to the new Concorde Agreement?
Was it ever more than clickbait in a time of limited motor sport news beyond an update of cancelled events, journalists cramped for things to write about? Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story etc. :wink:
welp... it was more about that Ferrari didn't want to let go any of its staff, don't think the Concorde fixed that issue. Don't underestimate Roger Penske about this just yet. :wink:
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Cheeveer wrote: 3 years ago
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 3 years ago
MonteCristo wrote: 3 years ago Sooo... Will this rumour totally die with Ferrari signing up to the new Concorde Agreement?
Was it ever more than clickbait in a time of limited motor sport news beyond an update of cancelled events, journalists cramped for things to write about? Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story etc. :wink:
welp... it was more about that Ferrari didn't want to let go any of its staff, don't think the Concorde fixed that issue. Don't underestimate Roger Penske about this just yet. :wink:
Indeed. Ferrari with it's current structure is still way over the budget cap. It's either laying off staff or finding another series for them to work with.
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Fair comment.... I had not thought of it as a method of them retaining staff within the F1 budget cap.

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Penske will be like a shark that just got a taste of blood here. He won't let this rumour go without a fight.
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John wrote: 3 years ago Indeed. Ferrari with it's current structure is still way over the budget cap. It's either laying off staff or finding another series for them to work with.
But with the way the world currently is, you're not going to retain staff for no reason. Indycar has to make financial sense.

Ferrari has a limit to its production numbers. It would make more sense for them to badge Alfa's or something.
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MonteCristo wrote: 3 years ago Sooo... Will this rumour totally die with Ferrari signing up to the new Concorde Agreement?
An emphatic YES. (Any takers on a small wager...?)
Cheeveer wrote: 3 years ago
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 3 years ago
MonteCristo wrote: 3 years ago Sooo... Will this rumour totally die with Ferrari signing up to the new Concorde Agreement?
Was it ever more than clickbait in a time of limited motor sport news beyond an update of cancelled events, journalists cramped for things to write about? Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story etc. :wink:
welp... it was more about that Ferrari didn't want to let go any of its staff, don't think the Concorde fixed that issue. Don't underestimate Roger Penske about this just yet. :wink:
May I ask....how was Ferrari to get it's ball rolling in the same season to save it's staff? That, I would like to see. ;)
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MonteCristo wrote: 3 years ago
John wrote: 3 years ago Indeed. Ferrari with it's current structure is still way over the budget cap. It's either laying off staff or finding another series for them to work with.
But with the way the world currently is, you're not going to retain staff for no reason. Indycar has to make financial sense.

Ferrari has a limit to its production numbers. It would make more sense for them to badge Alfa's or something.
Don't you come here spitting facts and logic.

That said, the North American market matters for Ferrari. If it makes sense from a business stand point and depending on the shape of the company itself these days, I would love to see it happen.

But I don't expect it to happen.
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