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So very sad to read this.
He will be sorely missed by competitors and and fans worldwide. A champion and a gentleman
Thoughts and condolences with Nicky's Family and friends.

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RIP Nicky. I remember your championship season well, remember how you were furious with Pedrosa at Estoril.
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:sorrow: :rip: Devastating news i cannot believe it poor Nicky ......R.I.P CHAMP :rip: :rip:
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Awfully sad news. RIP Nicky.
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On TV here there are currently airing a tribute to Nicky in the form of his initial MotoGP win at Laguna Seca back in 2005. I remember the race and am looking forward to seeing the emotional family celebrations on his win. 12 laps to go....
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Sadly the tears today are in sorrow not joy.

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Thought of the day: A cyclists discards a stop sign and gets killed by a car coming by. Now who cares for the traumatized car driver, who will be in this state a long time if not for life?
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So you're aware of the story that he ran a stop sign. I didn't want to be the one to bring it up.
Still sad to see him go. I always enjoyed his enthusiasm and humor.
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guess I missed an earlier post mentioning that I didn't like reading about Nicky's' death so missed it.
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To be honest, when I saw that map (without any video evidence when it was posted first) I was pretty sure what happened .... and got the in slack for it in my chatroom.
I have exactly that happened quite a couple times already, without the tragic outcome just because I was always able to throw the emergency anchor early enough. This goes for Johnny public, the amateur as well as the wannabe Lance Armstrongs (insert any pro cyclists name in here, still the same)

It is also a pretty sad irony that I discussed exactly this topic with a german motorcycle racing tv commentator a couple weeks prior to the incident.

Please don't get me wrong. I do not want to upset people in their grief and I also liked Nicky. But what remains is the question about the driver. This is pretty much similar to a train driver hitting down a suicidal on the rail. And there will remain some sort of trauma, lifelong in worst case.

One of those things I've observed on fellow comrades after truly bad alerts in the 25 years of being a voluntary firefighter, too. PTD is really tough on some of the lads and lasses. The driver will be traumatized whatever, and having knocked down a rather prominent won't help the case.

Enough thoughts for a night.
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Very true and very fair @Andy
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Nicky as being a cyclist isn't the first one and won't be the last. A cyclist on a racing cycle is a bit of an alien in a world in which he does not fit. Very vulnerable, fast and very difficult to evade, see, or even anticipate to. As a car driver for 20 years i am amazed how little concerned cyclists are when they are on the road in groups with high speeds up to 40-50kmh. Being on cycling paths or on the road itself they can't brake easily while the opposing traffic never anticipates on them.
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I was telling my wife last week about how there's a SEMI BLIND (decently thick trees) corner (well, a road, that leads directly onto a bike path) coming home from work where every second week I have a near miss (or see one) because cyclists don't stop for cars as they just swing onto the road to keep their momentum. They don't even look across to see if cars are there. Sigh.
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erwin greven wrote: 6 years ago Nicky as being a cyclist isn't the first one and won't be the last. A cyclist on a racing cycle is a bit of an alien in a world in which he does not fit. Very vulnerable, fast and very difficult to evade, see, or even anticipate to. As a car driver for 20 years i am amazed how little concerned cyclists are when they are on the road in groups with high speeds up to 40-50kmh. Being on cycling paths or on the road itself they can't brake easily while the opposing traffic never anticipates on them.
I live in a cycling area, just to say the name of the city where i live gave the name to a glorious bycicling comoany of the past. I see cyclist every day and i must say italy is not a cycling friendly country, and both behaviour of cyclist and car drivers should be more careful. I must say that what happened to hayden was one of the many cyclist accident that happen everyday here. This is really sad, think of scarponi, to say that it happened in my country
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It's the same everywhere, we have a crossroads in town that is controlled by lights, cyclists ignore them and ride straight through, several have been hit yet they never seem to learn. In London it is a major problem, what they do there is they tend to pull up alongside a car or lorry that is turning left, pull off as normal and ride straight into the side when the car/van/lorry turns, I absolutely dread pulling first up to traffic lights because of this - but instead of pointing out the obvious and trying to educate the cyclist into not putting themselves in that position, the driver is more often arrested and blamed for the death (before the charges are quietly dropped) and just left to it.

What we don't know is if Nicky knew the area, it could be he didn't and wasn't aware of the junction until he was on it which would be unfortunate. Our lane is a popular cycle route, it's part of the track they use to run a race on once a year, and the contempt and general lack of fear shown towards cars by cyclists on a Sunday morning causes a lot of arguments at our junction.
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Ian-S wrote: 6 years ago ......
What we don't know is if Nicky knew the area, it could be he didn't and wasn't aware of the junction until he was on it which would be unfortunate. Our lane is a popular cycle route, it's part of the track they use to run a race on once a year, and the contempt and general lack of fear shown towards cars by cyclists on a Sunday morning causes a lot of arguments at our junction.
Especially if I am not familiar with the area I`m riding in (whether on m'cycle, cycle or car) I`m extra careful and I surely do not discard a stop sign anyway.
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It s been said that Nicky often cycled in that area, so he probably knew the possible issues. It s rumored that he was messing with his ipod and didn t notice the danger of that crossing
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Suspended sentence for Hayden crash driver


The driver who fatally struck Nicky Hayden while the former MotoGP champion was cycling in Italy has been handed a one-year suspended prison sentence.

Hayden was found to be 30% to blame, for failing to stop at a stop sign, but the unamed driver was found to be largely to blame, mainly due to his exceeding the 50kph speed limit by more than 20kph. The driver was found guilty of road homicide.

Hayden had been cycling on the Rimini coast on May 17 last year when he was hit by a car, causing brain damage and ultimately his death five days later.

According to local news outlet Rimini Today and Italian sports newspaper La Gazzetta dello Sport, the 31-year-old driver, who was not named, was found guilty of road homicide.

The trial took place under an abbreviated procedure, meaning that the sentence would already be reduced by one third.

Prosecutors had been seeking a term of one year and two months after an investigation that Hayden and the driver shared culpability for the crash.

In addition to the suspended prison sentence, the driver had his licence cancelled and was ordered to pay court costs.

The crash had been investigated by a pool of three experts, one each appointed by the prosecutor, defence, and a lawyer representing the Hayden family.

It found Hayden was riding at a speed of just over 20km/h when he failed to obey a stop sign, while the driver had been exceeding the 50km/h speed limit by more than 20km/h.

As such, Hayden was determined to be 30 percent at fault for the crash with the driver shouldering the remainder of the blame.

Furthermore, the prosecutor’s expert Orlando Omicini, a former police officer, claimed that if the driver been travelling at the speed limit then “by reacting and braking, the accident would have been avoided.”

The judge will reveal the reasons for his decision within 90 days.
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Hayden’s family is pursuing civil action against the driver.

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