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[DONE] Mugello Project (Track/Street)

Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

Let's start with my new project about Mugello crashes, I'm going to include both the current track and the old public street circuit crashes.

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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

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Description: Sandro Cinotti went off during the practice of the European F2 Championship at Mugello, he missed the start of the race.

Year: 1975

Driver: Sandro Cinotti

Category: Open Wheelers

Series: European F2 Championship

Vehicle: March 752

Country: Italy

Track Type: Permanent Circuit

Circuit: Mugello

Event: II GP Mugello

Photo Credit: Motorsport Images

Fatal: No
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Post by PTRACER » 2 months ago

Thanks for starting this! Btw, please post the photos in Crash Photos and only write the post URL here. Thanks!
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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

PTRACER wrote:
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Thanks for starting this! Btw, please post the photos in Crash Photos and only write the post URL here. Thanks!
But these photos are already in the Crash Photos section :huh:
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Post by PTRACER » 2 months ago

Lor Bet wrote:
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PTRACER wrote:
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Thanks for starting this! Btw, please post the photos in Crash Photos and only write the post URL here. Thanks!
But these photos are already in the Crash Photos section :huh:
Sorry my mistake.
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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

Mugello Project (Track/Street)

1967
-Cox Kocher
Mugello GP, Trofeo Frescobaldi Mugello, Street Circuit, Ferrari 250 GTO
http://www.benhuset.dk/coxkocher1967mugello.JPG

1970
-André Wicky
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street Circuit, Porsche 907, DNS practice crash
http://www.porschemania.it/discus/messa ... 509568.jpg

-John Burton
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street Circuit, Chevron B16, DNF Crash in the “Salita del Giogo” section
http://www.porschemania.it/discus/messa ... 509569.jpg

-Aldo Bardelli and Piero Monticone
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street Circuit, Alfa Romeo T33/2 Porsche 906, Bardelli collided with Monticone sending Monticone into the wall, Bardelli managed to continue and finished 16th overall while Monticone DNF.
http://www.porschemania.it/discus/messa ... 509598.jpg
http://www.porschemania.it/discus/messa ... 509599.jpg
http://www.porschemania.it/discus/messa ... 509600.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/fRSkMjgX/Screenshot-110.png


-Giuseppe Giacomini
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street Circuit, Alpine A110 Renault, Shortly after the start Giacomini crashed against a tree, one of the theory is that a spectator crossed the track and Giacomini to avoid him went off, minor injuries
https://i.postimg.cc/vTkNrs70/Screenshot-108.png
https://i.postimg.cc/5tGHwKYs/Screenshot-109.png

-Arthur Appleby
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street, Austin-Healey Sprite, Appleby crashed during the Mugello GP, arm broken
https://i.postimg.cc/3wm2LHXk/Screenshot-111.png

-Klaus Reisch
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street, Alfa Romeo T33/2, Reisch crashed during Mugello GP and managed to return to the pit (DNF)
https://i.postimg.cc/SKVVLMcZ/Screenshot-112.png

-Nino Vaccarella
Gran Premio del Mugello (Mugello GP), Street, Abarth 2000 SP, Vaccarella crashed during the Friday practice against a tree in the “Discesa del Giogo” section, unhurt (DNS)
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2y0QsJ/Screenshot-113.png

1975
-Sandro Cinotti
Formula 2, Permanent Circuit, March 752, Practice crash and he missed the start of the race
https://i.postimg.cc/Y9HDXHGx/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Hnb4NSR1/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/KjhttPzq/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Pf1WTR3B/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/8ckz8cnk/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/HnSsTmfw/image.png

-Hans Walther
Formula 2, Permanent Circuit, March 742, Parctice crash and he missed the start of the race
https://i.postimg.cc/NGb0685K/image.png

-Giancarlo Martini
Formula 2, Permanent Circuit, March 752, he crashed during the first heat
https://i.postimg.cc/BQVQyq5s/image.png

-Gabriele Serblin
Formula 2 European Trophy, Permanent Circuit, March 752, Photo Credit: Marchives, Serblin spins during the first heat. He crashed out in the second heat.
https://i.postimg.cc/XJGbxvd1/image.png

1980
-Formula 3, Permanent Circuit, Car Ralt RT1 Ralt RT3 Chevron B38 March 803 Argo JM6, Carsh at Scarperia
DNF 84 Kurt Thiim, DK Sodastram Racing with Jac Nellemann Chevron B38 Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 35 Giampiero Consonni, I Giampiero Consonni Ralt RT1 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 113 Alfredo Ruggeri, I Alfredo Ruggeri Martini MK27 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 5 Guido Cappellotto, I Luciano Pavesi Racing Ralt RT3 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 1 Carlo Rossi, I Carlo Rossi Ralt RT3 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 126 Leonardo Verrelli, I Leonardo Verrelli Chevron B38 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 18 Ricardo Paletti, I Scuderia Escolette March 803 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 66 Thierry Tassin, B Anglia Cars Ltd Argo JM6 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
DNF 64 Eddy Kobelt, CH Eddy Kobelt Argo JM6 - Toyota/Novamotor 0 Accident
https://images3.imgbox.com/b9/f9/0snrli0n_o.jpg
https://images3.imgbox.com/63/13/8iqT7zDv_o.jpg
https://images3.imgbox.com/93/98/QSwFeYyK_o.jpg
https://images3.imgbox.com/e6/fc/EDPXiMM0_o.jpg
https://images3.imgbox.com/ce/d5/jJ1Y9TvB_o.jpg
https://images3.imgbox.com/df/e1/zauWoTHK_o.jpg
https://images3.imgbox.com/1c/1b/7dfOW89C_o.jpg

1991
-Emanuele Naspetti, International F3000, Permanent Circuit, Reynard 91D, DNS
https://images3.imgbox.com/76/25/E5YZIi7Y_o.jpg

2018
-Stefano Stefanelli and Tommaso Mosca
Porsche Carrera Cup Italia, Permanent Circuit, Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
Stefano Stefanelli was hit really hard by Tommaso Mosca, during the Qualy for the Carrera Cup Italia at Mugello. Stefano Stefanelli broke various ribs and was unconscious for some time, Tommaso Mosca broke his left leg. This is what remains of Tommaso's car.
https://i.postimg.cc/XYNGdb7d/37234053- ... 9456-n.jpg
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Post by Jacob » 2 months ago

That wrecked Cobra is probably not from Mugello. It matches with this one.
Jesper Hvid wrote:
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Vincenzo Arena's wreck after practice crash for the 1964 1000km of the Nürburgring, 7th rd. WSC:

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http://www.wspr-racing.com/wspr/results ... 964.html#7
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/cras ... itid1=1035
https://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/ ... 05-31.html


This is the car by Lord Cross. No such crash is mentioned:
https://williamianson.com/wp-content/up ... 6004-1.pdf

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Post by PTRACER » 2 months ago

Good job @Lor Bet!

If you are interested, I could arrange for you to have access to the admin side of the database. Then you can add these entries directly to the CPdB itself.
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Post by Motorsportrace » 2 months ago

Are you also going to include the motorcycle crashes that happened at Mugello?

If so, remember we've already got two in there:
http://the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/crashpho ... itid1=2160
(Paolo Tordi)

And:
http://the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/crashpho ... itid1=2161
(Otello Buscherini)

And some other entries were entered by me, like this:
http://the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/crashpho ... itid1=3960
(Alfredo Melandri)
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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

Motorsportrace wrote:
2 months ago
Are you also going to include the motorcycle crashes that happened at Mugello?

If so, remember we've already got two in there:
http://the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/crashpho ... itid1=2160
(Paolo Tordi)

And:
http://the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/crashpho ... itid1=2161
(Otello Buscherini)

And some other entries were entered by me, like this:
http://the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/crashpho ... itid1=3960
(Alfredo Melandri)
But they're already on the CPdB, have I to include them in the project?
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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

PTRACER wrote:
2 months ago
Good job @Lor Bet!

If you are interested, I could arrange for you to have access to the admin side of the database. Then you can add these entries directly to the CPdB itself.
Thanks, I would love it
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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

Jacob wrote:
2 months ago
That wrecked Cobra is probably not from Mugello. It matches with this one.
Jesper Hvid wrote:
9 years ago
Vincenzo Arena's wreck after practice crash for the 1964 1000km of the Nürburgring, 7th rd. WSC:

Image

http://www.wspr-racing.com/wspr/results ... 964.html#7
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/cras ... itid1=1035
https://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/ ... 05-31.html


This is the car by Lord Cross. No such crash is mentioned:
https://williamianson.com/wp-content/up ... 6004-1.pdf

I thought I wrote it somewhere already, but this happened only in my mind
Yes, I agree. The wreck of the car corresponds to the Arena's Cobra, plus the side of the road in the pic is the typical 'Ring style.
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Post by Motorsportrace » 2 months ago

Lor Bet wrote:
2 months ago
But they're already on the CPdB, have I to include them in the project?
It's not necessary, I was making sure you knew some crashes from Mugello are already in the CPDB, so that they aren't entered there twice (some time ago I entered all the fatalities that happened in Italy, and Mugello had some).

Also: are you going to enter motorcycle crashes at Mugello in the CPDB (like this: http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/forums/vi ... ro#p339076 (all of them are off-line, I've just noticed))?
Or, mostly, Car crashes?
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Post by Lor Bet » 2 months ago

Motorsportrace wrote:
2 months ago
Lor Bet wrote:
2 months ago
But they're already on the CPdB, have I to include them in the project?
It's not necessary, I was making sure you knew some crashes from Mugello are already in the CPDB, so that they aren't entered there twice (some time ago I entered all the fatalities that happened in Italy, and Mugello had some).

Also: are you going to enter motorcycle crashes at Mugello in the CPDB (like this: http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/forums/vi ... ro#p339076 (all of them are off-line, I've just noticed))?
Or, mostly, Car crashes?
I'm going to enter both motorcycle and car crashes, except the ones that are already on the CPdB. In the project I've entered all the photos I could enter, unfortunately a lot of images in the Crash Photo section are offline or unavailable like Pirro's or the 1970 Mugello GP crashes
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