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Great result for the Aussie who extends his championship lead.
Piastri now has 149 points with Zhou second on 134, Shwartzman 3rd on 113, Ticktum 4th on 104 and Pourchaire 5th on 96.
3 rounds to go, next one at Sochi in two weeks time.
Piastri now has 149 points with Zhou second on 134, Shwartzman 3rd on 113, Ticktum 4th on 104 and Pourchaire 5th on 96.
3 rounds to go, next one at Sochi in two weeks time.
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Well Doohan did all he could to keep his challenge for the F3 title going, taking pole for the weekend, but with the first race being reverse grid it meant starting tenth. Yes the first race has now been and gone, a late change of schedule having race 1 brought forward from tomorrows expected rain interruptions, and being run earlier tonight as the sun went down. Chief rival Hauger had a poor qualifying, finishing down the times but 4th on the grid.
However he made a great start and climbed to second lace whereas Doohan made a mess of the start, dropped a load of places and never made it back to the points. With Hauger coming to Sochi with a 40 +point lead it was only going to need him getting something like 7points to seal the title. Well his 2nd place finish secured him the title for the year.
Congrats to the Dane, and it has to be said he was, to me anyway, the class of the field without doubt. Fast and consistent seemed to be his qualities. And that wins titles.
However he made a great start and climbed to second lace whereas Doohan made a mess of the start, dropped a load of places and never made it back to the points. With Hauger coming to Sochi with a 40 +point lead it was only going to need him getting something like 7points to seal the title. Well his 2nd place finish secured him the title for the year.
Congrats to the Dane, and it has to be said he was, to me anyway, the class of the field without doubt. Fast and consistent seemed to be his qualities. And that wins titles.
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Oh in F2 Oscar piastri took pole and that race (their first one) is set for tomorrow. And being reverse grid the Aussie will start in the midfield somewhere.
The good news is....
Format changes announced for F2 and F3 for 2022
By:They are changing the. format next year. Only two races er weekend and that means half the races will start in qualifying order rather than from some mathematical puzzle.
Also F2 and F3 will both run on the same Formula 1 weekends next year in another change to the’ formats.
Both series will return to running alongside each other at most races as they did prior to 2021.
From next year, each round of both championships will include one free practice, one qualifying session and two races.
Friday’s qualifying session will determine the grid of the Sunday race, while the starting grid of the Saturday race will be determined by reversing the top 10 for F2 and the top 12 for F3.
The series had been separated for this season in a bid to save teams money, but the changes were criticised for long gaps between races and confusion among fans.
The number of events for both F2 and F3, which will all take place alongside Formula 1, will be announced next month.
Not perfect but much better than the current confusion and stupid gas between races that have been going on this year.
Bruno Michel, F2 and F3 CEO explains.....
The good news is....
Format changes announced for F2 and F3 for 2022
By:They are changing the. format next year. Only two races er weekend and that means half the races will start in qualifying order rather than from some mathematical puzzle.
Also F2 and F3 will both run on the same Formula 1 weekends next year in another change to the’ formats.
Both series will return to running alongside each other at most races as they did prior to 2021.
From next year, each round of both championships will include one free practice, one qualifying session and two races.
Friday’s qualifying session will determine the grid of the Sunday race, while the starting grid of the Saturday race will be determined by reversing the top 10 for F2 and the top 12 for F3.
The series had been separated for this season in a bid to save teams money, but the changes were criticised for long gaps between races and confusion among fans.
The number of events for both F2 and F3, which will all take place alongside Formula 1, will be announced next month.
Not perfect but much better than the current confusion and stupid gas between races that have been going on this year.
Bruno Michel, F2 and F3 CEO explains.....
"We want to ensure all our fans get the maximum entertainment during a race weekend and bringing the Championships back together in 2022 will provide more racing action during our events and ensure our fans have activity that will keep them engaged and excited.”
Michel added: “In 2021, we introduced a new race weekend format and chose to have F2 and F3 race separately, mainly for costs reasons, and it proved to be quite efficient.
"However, even if sporting-wise that new format worked pretty well, we understood that there was too much time in between each event, which was not ideal for the teams, the drivers and the fans.
"At the same time, there has been a strong will by the different stakeholders to have F1, F2 and F3 racing together again.
"After careful consideration, together with the FIA, we have decided to change the sporting regulations accordingly.
“This is great news for the fans because we are enhancing the overall F1 grand prix weekend experience, having all three Championships racing together, at as many events as possible.
"However, we are keeping our races where the most points are allocated and the stakes are higher on Sundays, ahead of the Formula 1 grand prix.
"It’s worked quite well this year and I believe this has brought a lot of action and entertainment on Sunday morning.”
Michel has confirmed that the much criticised gaps between events will be much shorter with the full calendar set to be announced at next month's World Motor Sport Council.
Drivers and fans have been highly critical of the disjointed calendar, particularly F2's schedule, which includes a 10-week break between this weekend's sixth round and the seven round in Saudi Arabia in December.
"The calendar will be announced at the World Motor Sport Council in mid October. Obviously it [the gaps] will be less than what we had this year," said Michel.
When asked how these changes will affect the cost to teams, Michel revealed that logistical costs will increase but is confident the general economic climate will be much improved next year.
He added: "We know at this time of the season how the driver market is going to like for next season and I must say at the moment it looks reasonably better than it was last year.
"The economic situation is better. What we need to understand is that it won’t be major difference in cost, there will be a difference in terms of logistic cost because the teams will go to more events than they were this year.
"On the other hand for F3 doing three races a weekend was possible but for F2 it was very difficult because we still continue to limit the number of people per team to limit the cost, and we need to be quite careful about that.
"We think that the difference is not going to be so high for next year in terms of costs and we think the category will do quite well next year." ....
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Time for DAAAAAAAAANNNN to get pole for the trifecta!
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Thank christ. The reverse-reverse grid is atrocious.Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago The good news is....
Format changes announced for F2 and F3 for 2022
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The reverse grid aspect is still retained but only the first race.... the 2nd (feature) race is a real qualy based grid though, so only one contrived grid instead of the two we have had this year.MonteCristo wrote: ↑2 years agoThank christ. The reverse-reverse grid is atrocious.Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years ago The good news is....
Format changes announced for F2 and F3 for 2022
Back to today and the F2 race 1 that should be almost finished now has been postponed to a time TBC due to the rain.
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F2 race formation lap underway.
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Track is as it was at end of qualy for F1.... all on slicks but its twitchy
Ticktum leading from Vips and Lawson..... its a reverse grid thing....
Ticktum leading from Vips and Lawson..... its a reverse grid thing....
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Zhou is out. as is Drugovich. Good for piastri in the championship chase. He is 9th but still in the race so should score and increase the gap
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Ticktum wins from Vips and Shwartzman, piastri only 9th.
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piastri leads Zhou 153 >134 with Shwartzman on 123
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Pity they cancelled the much loved reverse-reverse grid race. Piastri would have started in P2 and Zhou at the back. Oh well.
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Zhou did his bit to reward Piastri by crashing on the outlap before the race even started!MonteCristo wrote: ↑2 years agoPity they cancelled the much loved reverse-reverse grid race. Piastri would have started in P2 and Zhou at the back. Oh well.
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I'd love to know what the points for F3 and F2 would be without the reverse-reverse grid races counted.
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