Timmy Mayer's fatal crash, Longford, 1964, Tasman Series

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Timmy Mayer's fatal crash, Longford, 1964, Tasman Series

Post by Motorsportrace » 11 months ago

I've never been able to find anything about Timmy Mayer's fatal accident at Longford, during qualifying for the 8th round of the 1964 Tasman Series.

I've tried to search various newspapers, but no luck so far.

Can someone help me?

The Motorsportmemorial.org page:
http://motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=163

According to it, the Italian magazines Auto Italiana and Autosprint have articles about the accident, but I highly doubt they contain any image about it.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 11 months ago

The accident is fully detailed in the race report on this link.... it covers all the Australian Tasman races that year so Longford being the last event needs a bit od scrolling to get to. No pictures though.

https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/tas64a.html

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Post by hollie3sa » 11 months ago

Photos exist. But I don't know if they were ever published.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 11 months ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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The accident is fully detailed in the race report on this link.... it covers all the Australian Tasman races that year so Longford being the last event needs a bit od scrolling to get to. No pictures though.

https://www.sergent.com.au/motor/tas64a.html
Thanks for the link.
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Photos exist. But I don't know if they were ever published.
How do you know?
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Post by hollie3sa » 11 months ago

Motorsportrace wrote:
11 months ago

Thanks for the link.
hollie3sa wrote:
11 months ago
Photos exist. But I don't know if they were ever published.
How do you know?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1907609 ... SEARCH_BOX

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Sadly it happened right in front of me. Jumped the fence and took a couple of photos in black and white. Not something to fondly remember.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 11 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
11 months ago
Motorsportrace wrote:
11 months ago

Thanks for the link.
hollie3sa wrote:
11 months ago
Photos exist. But I don't know if they were ever published.
How do you know?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1907609 ... SEARCH_BOX

Comment by Kevin Pitt
Sadly it happened right in front of me. Jumped the fence and took a couple of photos in black and white. Not something to fondly remember.
Well, I highly doubt he would share them.
But... why would he say he took them?
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Post by hollie3sa » 11 months ago

Motorsportrace wrote:
11 months ago
hollie3sa wrote:
11 months ago
Motorsportrace wrote:
11 months ago

Thanks for the link.
hollie3sa wrote:
11 months ago
Photos exist. But I don't know if they were ever published.
How do you know?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1907609 ... SEARCH_BOX

Comment by Kevin Pitt
Sadly it happened right in front of me. Jumped the fence and took a couple of photos in black and white. Not something to fondly remember.
Well, I highly doubt he would share them.
But... why would he say he took them?
Sharing memories, I guess. Mayer's accident was never subject of many discussions in that group while Tresise's and Davison's were.

There's only one way to find out which is to ask him if he's willing to share the photos he took. But I won't do it. I don't feel like asking someone to specifically share photos of fatalities.



Apart from that: To everyone who is interested in the history (ca. pre 1980) of Australian motor racing, the group is insanely knowledgeable. With many former racing drivers (e.g. Kevin Bartlett) actively joining discussions.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 11 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
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Sharing memories, I guess. Mayer's accident was never subject of many discussions in that group while Tresise's and Davison's were.

There's only one way to find out which is to ask him if he's willing to share the photos he took. But I won't do it. I don't feel like asking someone to specifically share photos of fatalities.
I understand your point.
I think the only way would be ask him about his experience at Longford, what races he saw, if he has photos, etc.
Then, after some time, try to veer the conversation to Tim Mayer.
I know, it's a difficult task and it requires a lot of time (and efforts), and, well, it's quite "deceitful".
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Motorsportrace wrote:
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hollie3sa wrote:
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Sharing memories, I guess. Mayer's accident was never subject of many discussions in that group while Tresise's and Davison's were.

There's only one way to find out which is to ask him if he's willing to share the photos he took. But I won't do it. I don't feel like asking someone to specifically share photos of fatalities.
I understand your point.
I think the only way would be ask him about his experience at Longford, what races he saw, if he has photos, etc.
Then, after some time, try to veer the conversation to Tim Mayer.
I know, it's a difficult task and it requires a lot of time (and efforts), and, well, it's quite "deceitful".
Nah, don't do that. Just ask them. Be open about it. They will tell your their standpoint. And as you might expect, from my personal experience, there's only a yes or a no. Nothing really in between.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 1 month ago

Here are two aftermath images (one from a newspaper, at the scene of the crash, and one of the car loaded onto a truck):

http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal1.jpg
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal2.jpg

From the McLaren documentary.

Thanks to mattia2 for the video.
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Post by Sedre » 1 month ago

And one more mystery being solved. Great job!

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Post by Sedre » 1 month ago

Motorsportrace wrote:
1 month ago
Here are two aftermath images (one from a newspaper, at the scene of the crash, and one of the car loaded onto a truck):

http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal1.jpg
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal2.jpg

From the McLaren documentary.

Thanks to mattia2 for the video.
BTW, can you give me a newspaper source? As it shows Mayer's number I want to add to Motorsport Memorial.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 1 month ago

Sedre wrote:
1 month ago
Motorsportrace wrote:
1 month ago
Here are two aftermath images (one from a newspaper, at the scene of the crash, and one of the car loaded onto a truck):

http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal1.jpg
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal2.jpg

From the McLaren documentary.

Thanks to mattia2 for the video.
BTW, can you give me a newspaper source? As it shows Mayer's number I want to add to Motorsport Memorial.
Well, I don't know what newspaper that photo comes from, since I've basically took a screenshot from the McLaren documentary.

And... why one more "mystery being solved"? Was it some kind of an obscure crash?

EDIT: it seems it comes from the Examiner newspaper, at least according to this website:
https://www.realcommercial.com.au/for-s ... -503623362

You can see the newspaper address in the first wreck photo, and it says "21-75 Paterson ST.", which is where this building is located.
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Post by Sedre » 1 month ago

Motorsportrace wrote:
1 month ago
Sedre wrote:
1 month ago
Motorsportrace wrote:
1 month ago
Here are two aftermath images (one from a newspaper, at the scene of the crash, and one of the car loaded onto a truck):

http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal1.jpg
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/images/cp ... Fatal2.jpg

From the McLaren documentary.

Thanks to mattia2 for the video.
BTW, can you give me a newspaper source? As it shows Mayer's number I want to add to Motorsport Memorial.
Well, I don't know what newspaper that photo comes from, since I've basically took a screenshot from the McLaren documentary.

And... why one more "mystery being solved"? Was it some kind of an obscure crash?

EDIT: it seems it comes from the Examiner newspaper, at least according to this website:
https://www.realcommercial.com.au/for-s ... -503623362

You can see the newspaper address in the first wreck photo, and it says "21-75 Paterson ST.", which is where this building is located.
Thanks.

Well, I was pretty sure that photos of Mayer's crash were searched for several years.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 1 month ago

Sedre wrote:
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Thanks.

Well, I was pretty sure that photos of Mayer's crash were searched for several years.
That's true.
Well, sometimes photos are discovered in local newspapers, or in private collections.
Which is the reason why still many crashes are yet to be found.
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