[F1] Wasted/ unfulfilled talents

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What about Antonio Pizzonia?
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Nononsensecapeesh wrote: 1 year ago What about Antonio Pizzonia?
Too erratic & crash prone, obviously. Even when he got a chance with 2004-05 Williams I still remember him for crashing out Montoya at Spa more than anything else. There was a reason Williams picked uninspiring but reliable Nick Heidfeld over him in first place :tongue:

Pizzonia is one of the very few F1 drivers in 21st century who has over 50% retirement rate which is really hard to achieve in the modern reliability era.
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Vassago wrote: 1 year ago
Nononsensecapeesh wrote: 1 year ago What about Antonio Pizzonia?
Too erratic & crash prone, obviously. Even when he got a chance with 2004-05 Williams I still remember him for crashing out Montoya at Spa more than anything else. There was a reason Williams picked uninspiring but reliable Nick Heidfeld over him in first place :tongue:

Pizzonia is one of the very few F1 drivers in 21st century who has over 50% retirement rate which is really hard to achieve in the modern reliability era.
He was just the first driver I could think of. Williams also wanted to test Anthony Davidson for a 2005 race seat, his being a BAR/Honda protege actually did his career more harm than good, looking back.
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Bruno Junqueira would be an interesting choice and he was in the Williams seat shootout before Button was picked over him. He was fast but erratic with Ganassi in IndyCar but the CART/IRL merger really shut down his career which should have been more longer than it ultimately was. And if he followed Ganassi to IRL to begin with, that would have been a better career choice even if that's merely a hindsight opinion. Tomas Scheckter as Dixon's teammate doesn't look any less hilarious almost 20 years after it happened given how Scheckter was kicked out of Jaguar, managed to wreck previous boss Eddie Cheever and still ended up with Ganassi but that was his last strike after all
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Vassago wrote: 1 year ago Bruno Junqueira would be an interesting choice and he was in the Williams seat shootout before Button was picked over him. He was fast but erratic with Ganassi in IndyCar but the CART/IRL merger really shut down his career which should have been more longer than it ultimately was. And if he followed Ganassi to IRL to begin with, that would have been a better career choice even if that's merely a hindsight opinion. Tomas Scheckter as Dixon's teammate doesn't look any less hilarious almost 20 years after it happened given how Scheckter was kicked out of Jaguar, managed to wreck previous boss Eddie Cheever and still ended up with Ganassi but that was his last strike after all
I agree there but I would have thought Bruno Junqueira's Indy 500 crash in 2005 would have been what set in motion the process of his career shutting down.
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Vassago wrote: 1 year ago Bruno Junqueira would be an interesting choice and he was in the Williams seat shootout before Button was picked over him. He was fast but erratic with Ganassi in IndyCar but the CART/IRL merger really shut down his career which should have been more longer than it ultimately was. And if he followed Ganassi to IRL to begin with, that would have been a better career choice even if that's merely a hindsight opinion. Tomas Scheckter as Dixon's teammate doesn't look any less hilarious almost 20 years after it happened given how Scheckter was kicked out of Jaguar, managed to wreck previous boss Eddie Cheever and still ended up with Ganassi but that was his last strike after all
A solid driver in his class, but Bourdais solidly put him in his place as teammates. And seeing as Seabass did little in F1, I don't see our real estate agent as a wasted/lost F1 talent.
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Adrian Sutil and Vitantonio Liuzzi.
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Bjorn Wirdheim though unintentionally surrendering the win in the Monaco F3000 race just before the finish line in 2003 wouldn't have helped.
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Robin Frijns.
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Daniel Ricciardo

Should've been a multi-time champion with Red Bull by now.....
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DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago Daniel Ricciardo

Should've been a multi-time champion with Red Bull by now.....
I agree with that.
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DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago Daniel Ricciardo

Should've been a multi-time champion with Red Bull by now.....
When. In what year?
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erwin greven wrote: 1 year ago
DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago Daniel Ricciardo

Should've been a multi-time champion with Red Bull by now.....
When. In what year?
What I meant was he would've been champion had he not left Red Bull after 2018.
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DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago
erwin greven wrote: 1 year ago
DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago Daniel Ricciardo

Should've been a multi-time champion with Red Bull by now.....
When. In what year?
What I meant was he would've been champion had he not left Red Bull after 2018.
Maybe one title, but multiple. I doubt it.
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DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago
erwin greven wrote: 1 year ago
DaleJuniorFan wrote: 1 year ago Daniel Ricciardo

Should've been a multi-time champion with Red Bull by now.....
When. In what year?
What I meant was he would've been champion had he not left Red Bull after 2018.
Would have?? What about the Max factor? Once Max had settled and got few races under his belt he pretty much had Danny covered I would have thought. Plus the fact development of the car was very much Max influenced.

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Let's just say Daniel Ricciardo is an unfulfilled talent. At least I think he is.
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