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WARNING: I was bored and had some time on my hands to do a bit of research so stand by for a bit of reading if you are up for it.

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OK, we are over the hype of Fake Marinas, Mermaids and unknown celebrities and all the Egos, and hop back across the pond to return to Europe for the first of the European Season. Oh apart from Emily Imola Whatsername GP which snuck in last month.

The Spanish Grand Prix is this weekend with the F1 title race hotting up between Max Verstappen and leader Charles Leclerc, with the world champion snatching victory last time out at Miami.

Will we look forward to overtaking this weekend? Traditionally Catalunya has been a borefest and trains of cars unable to pass. This year of course we have regs that have supposedly made passing a breeze. Especially with boatloads of DRS zones. Will the new regs work? The outcome of this weekend, or the manner of ease of passing will be more obvious after the weekend. Moreso than whatever Brawns PR Gurus tell him to say that clouds the truth.

Dont ask me to pick a favourite for the weekend..... not after Ferrari blitzed qualy in Miami and overnight Red Bull turned the tables overnight, although it has to be said not much between them. Perhaps the difference on the day was the Red Bull straight line speed advantage. On top of all the ebbs and flows we have already seen this year, and given the traditions of Catalunya it will only get harder this weekend.

Traditions of Catalunya I say..... The usual story with this race is it is the first real opportunity for team to present their first major upgrades, and this year, given the new regs, will likely be no exception.Back near their factories after the traditional flyaways and with loads of data on Catalunya to gauge progress with. Plus they all know the track blindfold. And the surface isnt made of a mix of Miami marbles and Georgian Granite. We have already had notice that many teams will be doing just that and bringing loads of updates..

One thing though is Mercedes will be continuing with their mini sidepod concept. It will be an interesting and daresay busy weekend for them, because in pre-season testing here, the team ran with the larger more standard type sidepods. In case you dont remember they ended up as the fastest cars in that test. And then threw in their minipod concept which has since given them so many issues. Here they will have direct comparisons of performance that will/should deliver some key indicators about what direction the team should take with its car. They are still convinced the mini pod and larger area of exposed floor is the quicker route long term. Once they can control the porpoising.

It is starting to look like they are beginning to at least understand more of their cars quirks and habits. They were fast, well, George was, in early practice sessions, but then it all turned to Mierda (thats Spanish for Poo btw) come qualy.

Of course it isnt just Merc's progress. All the others have been working hard as well and I know the much improved Alfa team are bringing what they say are M-A-J-O-R upgrades. So expect them to be even quicker. They will be hoping for none of their Miami dramas (they missed sessions with breakdowns and a major crash for Bottas) with which to enable good evaluation. I suspect a new floor is in their package. A reminder that at Barca pre season the Alfa was the slowest.Anyway suffice to say they are expecting a good performance gain. But so are 9 other teams! Will they stay arguably best of the rest?

Anyway enough of what might happen. Will it be a good race? We know Catalunya can throw surprises (We have all seen the video of Maldonado and Williams in 2012!)..... if the new rules are working as intended, then drivers will be racing more closely together, with greater potential for them to find a way to make a move.

Oh one thing I will mention.... @erwin greven will be happy to note a proper Dutch driver (Max being Belgian born!) will be out in P1..... Williams is to run Mercedes reserve De Vries in FP1.

I keep referring to the pre-season testing. Maybe time to remind ourselves who did what time on what tyres pre season at Catalunya.

Catalunya pre season
BEST TIMES PER TEAM(driver, day, compound)


1. Mercedes (HAM, D3, C5), 1:19.138
2. Red Bull Racing (PER, D3, C4), 1:19.556 (+0.418)
3. McLaren (NOR, D1, C4), 1:19.568 (+0.430)
4. Ferrari (LEC, D2, C3), 1:19.689 (+0.551)
5. Aston Martin (VET, D3, C5), 1:19.824 (+0.686)
6. AlphaTauri (GAS, D2, C4), 1:19.918 (+0.780)
7. Williams (ALB, D3, C4), 1:20.318 (+1.180)
8. Alpine (ALO, D3, C3), 1:21.242 (+2.104)
9. Haas (MAZ, D2, C3), 1:21.512 (+2.374)
10. Alfa Romeo (ZHO, D2, C3), 1:21.885 (+2.747

C1 is the hardest compound, C5 is the softest; fastest time at 2020 Barcelona testing was Bottas 1:15.732

OK lets move on to a bit about the history of the Spanish GP..

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Had to just stick that photo of Regga at Montjuic somewhere. It used to be my desktop. Love the photo.

HISTORY

To appease those with a love of stuff before 1950 (looking at you (@Michael Ferner) lets start at the very beginning.

The first Spanish Grand Prix was held in 1913 and was run to touring car rules. It took place on a 300-kilometre road circuit at Guadarrama, near Madrid. There was also the Catalan Cup of 1908 and 1909 before that, on roads around Sitges, near Barcelona, marking the beginning of a long-standing racing tradition in Catalonia, which of course since Alonso turned up remains to this day, backed by the inclusion of Carlos Sainz. Sitges-Terramar was the site of the 1923 Spanish Grand Prix.

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1913 Spanish GP

In 1926, the Spanish Grand Prix was held at Circuito Lasarte on the north coast, home of the main race in Spain during the 1920s – the San Sebastián Grand Prix. A year later, the Spanish Grand Prix was part of the AIACR World Manufacturers’ Championship, but the race. was run to sports car regulations.

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1934 Starting Grid.

The Pedralbes Circuit first opened in 1946 where it hosted the Penya Rhin Grand Prix, a famous Spanish motor race that began in 1916. The high-speed 6.316km circuit, which swept through the wide city streets, had just six turns but was a favourite among the drivers and fans.

In 1950, Pedralbes hosted a non-championship round during the inaugural Formula One World Championship season and a year later hosted the very first Formula One Spanish Grand Prix, won by Juan Manuel Fangio in an Alfa

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Pedralbes in 1951

and Fangio the winner....
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Hawthorn wins in a Ferrari 1954. Pedralbes

In the 1960s the Royal Automobile Club of Spain commissioned a new circuit north of Madrid in Jarama, ( designed by Suzuka creator John Hugenholtz). Catalonia rebuilt their Barcelona circuit, making it much safer, in Montjuïc. Montjuic was set in the Montjuïc mountain in Barcelona. Like the Pedralbes circuit from the 1950s, it was set on the streets of Barcelona, had incredible views, was loved by the drivers and fans… and it was extremely dangerous.
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Arturo Mezario raises his hand in protest over safety in the 1975 race

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Another Montjuic Pic


Ahead of the 1975 race, drivers even went on strike and refused to take part in practice due to the circuit’s poor safety standards. Despite track staff and even F1 team personnel doing their best to fix up barriers and improve safety, the race would end in tragedy, when on lap 26 Rolf Stommelen launched over the barriers and five spectators were killed. Formula One never returned.

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Montjuic in1973

From the Spanish Grand Prix in 1968 at Jarama, the race would then alternate between these two tracks. Jarama was a bit tricky on overtaking. ...it was quite narrow and held its last GP in 1981, when Gilles Villeneuve held of a faster pack for most of the race.

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Jarama in 1976

and in1979
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In 1985, the Mayor of Jerez commissioned a new racing circuit, the Circuito Permanente de Jerez.

When Barcelona was awarded the 1992 Olympic Games a massive investment was made in infrastructure throughout the region. The Catalans were now powerful in the country and used the influx of funding to construct the Grand Prix circuit they had wanted for some time. Organisers spent two years building the track and used input from Spanish drivers to design the layout.

The event moved to this new track, Catalunya in 1991, where it has remained since. The event the following year was advertised as the Grand Prix of the Olympic Games though still run as the Spanish GP.

So we have had 51 Championship Spanish GP's

31 at Barcelone. 1991 - current day.
9 at Jarama. 1968,70,72,74, 1976-81
5 at Jerez de la Frontera 1986-1990
4 at Montjuïc Park. 1969,71,73,75
2 at Pedralbes 1951,54



We have had some memorable moments at the various Spanish GPs though....

MEMORABLE MOMENTS

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1971. Tyrrells first F1 win 1971 JYS at the Spanish GP.


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1991: Senna v Mansell: The very first F1 race at the Catalunya circuit produced a memorable wheel-to-wheel scrap between McLaren’s Ayrton Senna and Williams’ Nigel Mansell. After plenty of position switches and tyre changes from wet to dry, Senna lost his nerve and spun, leaving Mansell to become the first victor at the circuit.
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Image1981 Villeneuve wins

1996: Schumacher in the wet: Michael Schumacher was in a class of his own at the wet 1996 Spanish Grand Prix. The hectic race saw plenty of drivers slide off the track, including polesitter Damon Hill. Schumacher snatched the lead from Hill’s team-mate Jacques Villeneuve and proceeded to set lap times three seconds faster than any other driver. He eventually won the race by over 45 seconds from Jean Alesi to take his first victory for Ferrari.
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2001 : Mika Hakkinen looked set for an easy victory until the final lap when his clutch exploded. The McLaren crawled to a halt just five corners from the chequered flag.

2006 Fernando Alonso became the first Spaniard to win his home (Championship) GP.
Oh I better not say that
@Michael Ferner will correct me.
OK.... before Fernando won in 2006, the last Spaniard to win their home Grand Prix was Carlos de Salamanca driving a Rolls-Royce in a sportscar race at Guadarrama back in 1913 – the very first year the event was held. :tongue:

2012: Maldonado’s only victory: After Lewis Hamilton was disqualified from the Qualifying result, it would be Pastor Maldonado who started from pole for the first time in his career. He faced no easy feat on Sunday, with Fernando Alonso starting alongside him on the front row. Predictably, Alonso overtook him at the start, but Williams’ pit-stop strategy and a super speedy out-lap while the Ferrari was stuck in traffic saw Maldonado emerge in the lead. He went on to take his only F1 win, as well at the only Grand Prix victory for a Venezuelan driver. It was Williams’ first win in eight years, and their latest so far in F1.

2016: Verstappen makes history, and Nico and Lewis took each other out.: The first lap of the 2016 Spanish Grand Prix is notable for one of the most talked about incidents of recent times in F1, as Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg came together on the opening lap, ending both of their races. The crash allowed Max Verstappen to take an impressive victory on his very first appearance with the Red Bull team. It was hard fought for, as Kimi Raikkonen pushed Max all the way to the finish, Max winning by just over half a second. As a result, he became the youngest ever Grand Prix winner at 18 years and 228 days.

2018 Romain Grosjean and the Hulk got together. Romain went wide , put his boot in and spun back on to the track blinding the oncoming pack with thick tyre smoke. The stewards were not impressed.

Some of those are in the following video
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WHO HAS WON THE SPANISH GP.(More than once)?


Michael Schumacher, who won the race six times in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
Lewis Hamilton equalled Schumacher’s Spanish Grand Prix win record in 2021.
Other multiple winners of the event include Jackie Stewart, Mika Hakkinen, Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost, each with three wins apiece.

Between 2007-2016, the Spanish Grand Prix was won by ten different drivers!
Then Lewis got a bit possessive with it winning every race from 2017. Only 3 of the current crop have wwone here (Alonso Max and Lewis.

Multiple winners
SCHUMACHER Michael 6
HAMILTON Lewis 6
STEWART Jackie 3
MANSELL Nigel 3
PROST Alain 3
HAKKINEN Mika 3
FITTIPALDI Emerson 2
ANDRETTI Mario 2
SENNA Ayrton 2
RAIKKONEN Kimi 2
ALONSO Fernando 2

SPECIAL MENTION: Rubens Barrichello has 7 non-finishes, also a record.


Multiple Constructors winners Nb
Ferrari 12
McLaren 8
Williams 7
Mercedes 7
Lotus 6
Red Bull 3



OK back to the present and the track as it is today....

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First Grand Prix
1991

Number of Laps
66

Circuit Length
4.675km

Race Distance
308.424 km

Lap Record
1:18.149 Max Verstappen (2021)


Catalunya
When was the track built?

In case you didnt read the history, the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya was built as part of the 1992 Barcelona Olympics development programme. The foundation stone was laid in 1989. Oh and the first car race was a round of the 1991 Spanish Touring Car Championship.

When was its first Grand Prix?
Two weeks after the touring cars raced at Barcelona, it was Formula 1’s turn. The track enjoyed a sensational debut, with Nigel Mansell and Ayrton Senna’s famous eyeball-to-eyeball drag race down the straight, before Mansell took the lead and drove on to victory.

What’s the circuit like?
The drivers seem to like Catalunya, which is just as well, because historically they have spend huge amounts of time pounding around it during winter testing. Barcelona’s mix of high- and low-speed corners, plus its abrasive and rather bumpy track surface, makes for a physically and mechanically taxing race.

Tyre wear is particularly high and the varying winds that cut across the circuit mean an optimum set-up can be hard to find..... with the challenging Turn 3 right-hander a great chance to evaluate the balance of the car your team’s designers have given you to fight with. But Catalunya often provides a shit race....


Talking of tyres I will add the tyre preview separately. I think you already have enough to read!


Finally some pics of winners with the year they won.

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Graham Hill on his way to winning at Jarama 1968

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1969 Jackie Stewart, Matra. Montjuic

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1970 Jackie Stewart, March Jarama.

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1971 Jackie Stewart Tyrrell Montjuic

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1972 Fittipaldi Lotus. Jarama

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1973 Emmerson Fittipaldi.on the Podium Montjuic. With Cevert. Bonus point for who tthe other driver on the podium is.
George Follmer!
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1974 Lauda

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1975 Jochen Mass Montjuic


Image1977 Mario Andretti Lotus Jarama


Image1986 Senna Lotus Jerez


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1987 Mansell Williams Jerez


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1988 Prost Jerez

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1989 Senna Jerez

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1990 Prost Ferrari Jerez.

And then we moved on to Catalunya.and I think that is enough photos already.
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we can only hope for rain, but it won't come anyway.

besides - rain lately doesn't mean nothing. The latest rain races (Turkey 2021 and Imola 2022) turned out to be boring.
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Mongols?

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MonteCristo wrote: 1 year ago Mongols?

(Fantastic photos, thanks!)
I knew someone would mention the Mongols if I omitted an update!

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Pirelli Tyre Preview.

As promised:

We have the hardest selection possible. Same as last year. So a two stopper will be the go.

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THE TYRES ON TRACK

Pirelli brings the hardest tyres in the 2022 range to the race where it is title sponsor in Spain, with the C1 as the P Zero White hard, C2 as the P Zero Yellow medium, and C3 as the P Zero Red soft. It’s a pretty straightforward choice – which is the same as last year, albeit using a brand-new family of tyres – with the demands of the Barcelona circuit being extremely well-known from testing and previous races. These famously include the long Turn 3 as well as Turn 9: all corners that put a lot of energy through the tyres.
The teams were at Barcelona as recently as February, three months ago, for pre-season testing. However, there are three big differences to consider: firstly, the teams concentrated on testing compounds in the middle of the range back then rather than the hard; secondly, weather conditions were much cooler; and thirdly, the new cars were in their most basic launch specification. The cars have moved on considerably since then, and it’s going to be interesting to see how much that improvement actually is with the latest upgrades.

With Barcelona being a very well-used circuit, there’s not going to be a huge amount of track evolution expected over the course of the weekend, thanks to a busy schedule of support races too. Temperatures should be dry and warm, adding to the heavy demands placed on the tyres. The track itself is unchanged compared to last year, when Turn 10 was modified, slightly increasing the overall length of the circuit.

Last year’s winning strategy was a two-stopper, the traditional approach to Barcelona, with Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton triumphing from pole using a soft-medium-medium strategy. Soft-medium-soft was used by all the finishers from P2 to P8.

Mario Isola's comments
“It’s hard to say much about Barcelona that hasn’t been said already, as it’s possibly the best-known circuit on the calendar for the drivers, with its wide-ranging layout making it a perfect testing venue. It has a bit of everything, with the very technical final sector being particularly important when it comes to looking after the tyres. As a result, the teams will have a good opportunity to assess the progress they have made with their cars since the start of the season, although the weather conditions will be much warmer and there will probably be a lot more running on the hard tyre than there was in testing, which will perhaps be the key to the race. In the past, Barcelona has traditionally been a two-stopper, so it will be interesting to see if the new generation of tyres this year leads anyone to target a one-stopper.”
https://press.pirelli.com/2022-spanish- ... --preview/


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I'm impressed, ballsy one, you even mentioned Guadarrama! :thumbsup:

Good intro, I might even be tempted to watch on Sunday.
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Michael Ferner wrote: 1 year ago I'm impressed, ballsy one, you even mentioned Guadarrama! :thumbsup:
Twice actually.... once in the History section and once in the Memorable Moments part. :wink:
Albeit both references to the same race in two different contexts. :whistling:
The first Spanish Grand Prix was held in 1913 and was run to touring car rules. It took place on a 300-kilometre road circuit at Guadarrama,
.... before Fernando won in 2006, the last Spaniard to win their home Grand Prix was Carlos de Salamanca driving a Rolls-Royce in a sportscar race at Guadarrama back in 1913 – the very first year the event was held.

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You could have done a more comprehensive round up @Everso Biggyballies :tongue: :haha:

A very good read and lots of pretty pictures to enjoy too. :thumbsup: That will potentially end up being more interesting than the race I have to say.

I do recall a particularly boring race in 2001, I was in bed ill and struggling to keep my eyes open as the race went on. I felt lousy but I kept watching and I was rewarded with seeing my favourite driver Jacques Villeneuve sneaking onto the podium to take BAR's first ever podium finish.
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In other news, the circuit is working on removing the final chicane for next years race. As far as I understand, this would restore the penultimate corner to is pre 2007 configuration.
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A bit of news on Updates

Red Bull as we know have been updating things as they go this year, whereas others have waited and looked to understand their cars more. Likely one of the factors that they are arguable the best, most balanced and least flawed car at the moment. Its had the most money thrown at it. Probably along with Merc, but their position and strategy for the year is different.

Red Bull are I understand not bringing many updates as such.... their post Miami focus has been one of weight reduction and a target of near the mandated minimum weight , and rumour is several kilos have been trimmed. A good effort when we have seen teams go naked (wrapless) to save 300 grams.

Ferrari are apparently bringing a modified floor to allow them to run closer to the ground in an attempt to minimise the porpoising. Also diffuser and aero tweaks to try and improve their straight line speed.

Mercedes are obviously fine tuning things, and they seemed to look better at times in Miami, but clearly set up is absolutely critical on that car. Improving what they have got, and evaluating the mini sidepod concept against the full sidepod concept they used to finishing the Catalunya testing fastest. This will give them the answers and direction to head.

Aston Martin are bringing a re-designed floor and revised sidepods. Apparently Seb is looking forward to them.

Alfa Romeo say they have a good step up coming, again with a modified floor and sidepod package aimed at increasing both top speed and downforce in lower speed corners.

Alpine are bringing a new rear wing but also have made good weight savings apparently.

McLaren have said their car will be updated with new parts for this weekend...... the team’s first major changes of the season. They have a number of things to try, and given their good pace in Spain pre season they will be comparing the new stuff with the data they have from pre season.

Haas.... a bit of an oh dear there I am afraid. Whether it is the lack of ongoing Mazepin money coming in but Haas are not bringing any significant updates.to Spain. They believe there is more to come from the existing package..... they do have a good upgrade package due in about four or five races though.

Alpha Tauri apparently had a big upgrade for Imola, but they are bringing 'incremental aerodynamic upgrades' aimed at working on increasing the operating window, to give the car a wider operating window aerodynamically to work in, especially in lower speed. areas. It seems that what they are bringing to Spain is basically to complement their Imola updrade

Williams I was going to say their biggest upgrade is to put Nick de Vries in the car this weekend in place of Latifi, but sadly De Vries is only in for P1 and he is replacing Albon. :nuts:

Seriously though, Williams are just saying it has some "exciting things in the pipeline"but nothing specific.. I think they cant be bringing much.... why, if you are bringing a host of updates, would you put a driver in your car who has never done a practice session in an F1 car before.... especially why would you replace your lead and more experienced driver with him. They need to have their best guy in the car giving feedback in P1. One who knows the car and its quirks.

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Seb is definitely looking forward to the upgrades. In 2 or 3 races time.

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Being optimistic this could be where we see a big difference in cars being able to follow and maybe overtaking at t10
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I mentioned in the opening thread that de Vries is getting a P1 drive for Williams. He is not the only one.

Vips gets Practice 1 outing with Red Bull

Vips will take the place of Sergio Perez for P1 at Catalunya.

Part of the Red Bull driver academy, Vips drove the squad’s RB16B at the end of season test in Abu Dhabi in December.

He’s this year competing in the FIA F2 Championship and has already achieved two podium finishes.

Its all to do.with new regulations introduced to F1 this year which mandate teams must field a young driver on two occasions throughout the season.

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 1 year ago I mentioned in the opening thread that de Vries is getting a P1 drive for Williams. He is not the only one.

Vips gets Practice 1 outing with Red Bull

Vips will take the place of Sergio Perez for P1 at Catalunya.

Part of the Red Bull driver academy, Vips drove the squad’s RB16B at the end of season test in Abu Dhabi in December.

He’s this year competing in the FIA F2 Championship and has already achieved two podium finishes.

Its all to do.with new regulations introduced to F1 this year which mandate teams must field a young driver on two occasions throughout the season.
That's correct, nevertheless it would be nicer if they can arrange more teams on the grid so these drivers can have a permanent seat.
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Arthur-vL wrote: 1 year ago
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 1 year ago I mentioned in the opening thread that de Vries is getting a P1 drive for Williams. He is not the only one.

Vips gets Practice 1 outing with Red Bull

Vips will take the place of Sergio Perez for P1 at Catalunya.

Part of the Red Bull driver academy, Vips drove the squad’s RB16B at the end of season test in Abu Dhabi in December.

He’s this year competing in the FIA F2 Championship and has already achieved two podium finishes.

Its all to do.with new regulations introduced to F1 this year which mandate teams must field a young driver on two occasions throughout the season.
That's correct, nevertheless it would be nicer if they can arrange more teams on the grid so these drivers can have a permanent seat.
To me this is a kind of confirmation Red Bull are light on updates this weekend as has been hinted in my updates report above. Had they been bringing major updates they would have had both main drivers in the cars throughout to be able to get more meaningful data and feedback as to what is working.... basically what is an improvement and by how much. A rookie driver wont have the 'before' knowledge to have meaningful / quantifiable input. Basically RB are using this opportunity to get rid of one of their 2 rookie driver mandated sessions when a main driver input is less important.

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