Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑2 years agoMiami Grand Prix in "limbo" as residents apply late pressure
Just read of this news relating to the Miami race in a few weeks time.... a "Special Use Permit" that the race relies on to proceed appears to have not yet been signed in a time where residents are protesting the event proceeding based on
"Intolerable Noise".
With the race scheduled to be run in the first weekend in May (Yes, just over 3 weeks time!)they need to pull their fingers out and get this permit sorted. TBH I dont know whether this is some sort of bluff or a real threat. Knowing the way things sometimes operate in the US nothing would surprise me.
Guess what..... the shit has avoided the fan....
Attempt to block F1 Miami Grand Prix dismissed by judge
The court challenge by local residents to halt the inaugural Miami Grand Prix on the grounds of damage to hearing due to noise from the event has been denied.
I guess money has changed hands, brown paper bags have been spotted being exchanged, and life proceeds as it does.
This clears the final roadblock for the event to take place as planned at the Hard Rock Stadium site in Miami Gardens on 6-8 May.
Judge Alan Fine, who was being asked to grant a special hearing that would block the race from happening, found that “any potential harm is avoidable” in terms of hearing damage – despite the plaintiffs bringing forth new evidence as requested.
“The bottom line here is I’m not going to schedule a preliminary injunction hearing prior to 6 May,” Fine said. He then listed a series of reasons why that “compelled” him to make the decision.
“Two are more important than the rest,” he added. “Although the burden may seem unfair to the plaintiffs [the residents], I do find that any potential harm is avoidable.
“In combination with that, the evidence proffered so far regarding the potential hearing loss is, in my view, very highly speculative.
"It is not based on any current Formula 1 noise information, and the most recent affidavit from overnight does not take into consideration the south wall [a noise barrier previously erected at the venue].”
Judge Fine also ruled that the belated date of this lawsuit, lodged on 21 March, also had a bearing on his decision.
“The other co-equal reason is the delay in bringing this action in seeking injunctive relief,” he added.
“I’m not persuaded by the legal soundness of waiting to file until a special events permit was issued.”
Judge Fine did not rule out scope for further court proceedings after the race occurs in 2022, adding that he would expect a “full-blown evidentiary hearing in four-five months” after the 8 May race takes place.
Sound monitoring will be carried out by the stadium, as part of its obligations under the Memorandum of Understanding that is part of the event’s contract with the city.
The judge also ordered that one of these sites must be located in or near residential areas.
Promoter already declared this new (and very green) circuit best in its class. I think he was probably referring Singapore, Monaco, and whatever else. Yes, we will see soon whether he is right. Kudos for making effort.
PTRACER wrote: ↑2 years ago
And now that all the legal mess has cleared up, here is how the circuit will look:
Not very good in my opinion, but we shall see in a few weeks.
The definition of a featureless track.
.... but it allegedly has a very special surface on the track.....
The science behind Miami GP’s “innovative” F1 track surface The Miami GP track features a local limerock and Georgia State granite mix that asphalt specialists believe will provide an “innovative” surface that will satisfy the expectations of the FIA and Formula 1 in terms of grip and wear and for its inaugural race on May 8.
UK firm Apex Circuit Design has designed the 3.36-mile anticlockwise circuit – which winds around the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens – with an expected lap time of 1m35s and an average speed of just under 135mph.
Paving the track required 24,000 tons of asphalt, which was laid out over 85,000 yards in echelon over three lanes for an average track of 50-feet width. Construction scheduling had to be choreographed around the stadium’s multiple other events including the end of the NFL football season, a jazz music festival and the Miami Open tennis tournament.
“Of course, a lot of engineering and analysis has gone into the asphalt itself,” said Apex’s project director Sam Worthy. “The FIA requires the asphalt to be down at least 60 days ahead of the race weekend. We hit that, so it’s going to be well cured before the race happens.
“We’re starting to see the limerock aggregate peek through right now because we’re getting that top layer of binder coming off now. You can see white specks in it.
“Normally, limerock is a poor aggregate to use for F1 tracks: one, it is ‘friable’ and can chip and, two, it polishes. So you don’t usually get good tyre degradation and grip is reduced. But, in Southern Florida, the predominant aggregate is a more abrasive limerock.
“Our asphalt specialists, R3, looked into the local aggregate and they said they’d seen nothing like it throughout the world, as it is much harder than expected and will result – with the mix of 60% US-mined granite from Georgia – in suitable abrasiveness in our asphalt mix. R3 has been involved with most recent F1 tracks in some way, so their exposure to data from other venues gives us a good reference.
“What R3 found in South Florida is that ‘our’ limerock is unique because it has a very high silica content. Its texture is like little shards of glass, so as the limerock itself breaks down and degrades it exposes more of this silica and so you get an effect where it maintains a much higher tyre degradation than you’d usually get in with limerock elsewhere in the world.
“Granite was brought by train from Georgia, and so our mix is an innovative combination of granite and limerock that is all locally sourced – it’s nowhere near what people thought we’d have originally. We are very pleased with the results we’ve got.”
Michael Ferner wrote: ↑2 years ago
Ahh, so another 1984 Dallas GP is on the cards! That'll be fun...
I don't think it will be like that. Florida roads are much more pale in color compared to other parts of the USA. They are designed with the limestone mentioned above to be resistant to the baking sun. Very good at high temperatures and they are hard as a brick.
After living here for 4 years I can attest to the tire wear. My soft compound tires from Ohio only lasted 15k miles before wearing out. I purchased a very hard compound thinking it would last longer at the expense of grip. But so far the grip is great and the wear is much better. As long as the Pirelli puts out their hardest compounds, it should be a normal race. If they bring the soft one's we may see Canada 2010 (or was it 2012?) where we could get some 4 and 5 stoppers.
Edit: After watching the video, the track layout/flow reminds me of the old Korean circuit.
One thing I was not aware of until now....
Miami are so keen to be seen as the new Monaco they are building a FAKE MARINA in a car park
Fortunately it is being wickedly mocked as the ultimate F1 wank. Fans have taken to Twitter ridiculing the man-made marina and labelling it a knock-off version of the Monaco Grand Prix circuit marina Miami’s Formula 1 ‘fake marina’ mocked as Monaco rip off
A fake marina, which is being constructed ahead of the Formula 1 Grand Prix in Miami in May, is raising eyebrows from the yachting sector and F1 fans alike.
Organisers have released a rendered video, which shows the F1 Crypto.com Miami Grand Prix Campus complete with grandstands around the circuit and a man-made marina and ‘MSC Cruises Yacht Club’.... the marina will be positioned on the infield of the long left-handers of turns 6-8 of the 5.4 kilometre track.
It gets worse though......A beach will also be created at the circuit by the Hard Rock Club, which itself features resort-style pools and bars.
F1 CRYPTO.COM MIAMI GRAND PRIX CAMPUS TOUR
Fly through the campus of the Miami International Autodrome, host to the F1 Crypto.com Miami Grand Prix coming to Hard Rock Stadium, May 6th through 8th.
Basically A video of the 'trimmings and places to pose.
I dont know whether to be embarrassed for them or just ashamed this level of fake wankiness is becoming part of F1. Wankiness itself of course is part of the F1 culture, but all this seems to take it to new levels. Or depths is perhaps a better word.
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@Everso Biggyballies I don't even remember what the Korean circuit layout looks like anymore. This and the Indian track. Two completely anonymous tracks that have evaporated from my memory (and the Valencia SC too). And I used to know all tracks just by their layouts when I was younger, sure it helped to play some computer games in the pre-internet era when the track layout was present.
Hell, I can still recognize Rouen-les-Essarts layout but not the Korean track
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Vassago wrote: ↑2 years ago
@Everso Biggyballies I don't even remember what the Korean circuit layout looks like anymore. This and the Indian track. Two completely anonymous tracks that have evaporated from my memory (and the Valencia SC too). And I used to know all tracks just by their layouts when I was younger, sure it helped to play some computer games in the pre-internet era when the track layout was present.
Hell, I can still recognize Rouen-les-Essarts layout but not the Korean track
Hehehe yeah I guess im the same.... all I remember of Valencia is it had a swing bridge they had to cross over, by the boat yards. Oh and I remember it was boring, with what I remember as more a long sweeper than a proper straight.. Mind you I mentioned Phoenix the other day and have no memories of that.
I couldnt remember what Korea looked like so looked it up. I was shocked to find 4 races listed. I only remember the wet one and vaguely one other. My clearest memory was Webber crashing out. I could not remember it was anti clockwise direction. ,All I remember of India was the haziness
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I liked the Korean circuit. Too bad they never got that city built around it - such lofty goals.
Only 1 week to go and it seems like they still have a lot to prepare.
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I'll give until next year to decide if I like the track or not. All in all its quite allright, even the chicane, its got just the right amount of rhythm break imo. And who doesn't like kerb hopping F1 cars? I just hope they fix the gravel issues.
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One thing I was not aware of until now....
