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Circuitmaster wrote: 2 years ago
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 years agoYes, there have been more Australian Grand Prix than French GPs.
Ooooh not sure about that.. 84 Australian Grand Prix (admittedly I'm going by Wikipedia) while the French GP is nearing 90
My understanding is 87 French GP's and I counted 88 from my AGP encyclopaedia of the pre WDC races and added the WDC races.
.... but I have just realised I think I counted 2020 for Australia which of course didnt happen. So maybe an 87-87 draw.

In which case what I should have written there have been as many AGP's as French..... and the French did start 20 years earlier, so have had a lot more gaps than just the war years. :tongue:

Or settle for there have been bloody loads of 'em and we have a true heritage of motorsports that should not be cast aside. :wink:

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 years ago
Aty wrote: 2 years ago I am not sure to where is Liberty driving the series, however I do continue to believe that whilst a visit to places like Suzuka, Kyalami, Sao Paolo, Mexico, US (1 race), and Canada are all good, but rest of the season should happen at home, where the series belongs - Europe.

(I am old, and my thinking undoubtedly is at the level of an old fossil, so I hope to be forgiven for my outburst).

Edit: I should have added my nod for a race in China. Important market!!
So Australia is off your list despite having one of the most run Grand Prix in world terms. Yes, there have been more Australian Grand Prix than French GPs. There have been 88 Australian GPs.... I think Italy have had 90 Italian GPs. Agreed not every. Aus GP has been for F1, and for some years it was for Sports cars, but it has run an Australian GP every year bar the war years since the 1920's. We have had permanent racetracks since the 1920's. Prior to Australia holding an F1 championship GP of course we used to entertain the Worlds best cars and drivers for the Tasman Championship, which included the Australian GP as one of the rounds of that. Even when it was pre championship we would have the likes of Rosberg, Prost Lauda, Clark Hill Surtees Rindt, Stewart back to Moss and Whitehead and before all coming to drive in the Australian GP in the European Off season.

There was an annual Australian GP long before there was a British GP., albeit not in world championship terms.
Australians part of motor sport is well known, and many Aussies have left Australia to take up careers in motor racing overseas.
In fact I believe Australian drivers have won just one Championship GP less than Italian drivers.

I guess the point of this post is to remind you that you should not forget Australia when you talk of nations with long histories of and heritage in motor sport. Even if as a market important to the auto manufacturers we are of minimal importance. We are no China is automotive importance. But then neither are the US. Or any other auto marketon the planet.. China's current Motorization rate is many times higher than other saturated markets. And there are a lot of people in China!

Im certainly not denying that Europe is the heart of Grand Prix racing, and I agree their various GPs should be maintained above other Middle Eastern and Asian GPs. Im also totally against a third US based GP or even a second if it is at the expense of other traditional GPs in areas with Motor Sport history. Just a playful reminder, dont forget Australia. :wink: .
Error on my part, and I apologise. I am not sure how did I managed to leave it out.
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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 years ago
Circuitmaster wrote: 2 years ago
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 2 years agoYes, there have been more Australian Grand Prix than French GPs.
Ooooh not sure about that.. 84 Australian Grand Prix (admittedly I'm going by Wikipedia) while the French GP is nearing 90
My understanding is 87 French GP's and I counted 88 from my AGP encyclopaedia of the pre WDC races and added the WDC races.
.... but I have just realised I think I counted 2020 for Australia which of course didnt happen. So maybe an 87-87 draw.

In which case what I should have written there have been as many AGP's as French..... and the French did start 20 years earlier, so have had a lot more gaps than just the war years. :tongue:

Or settle for there have been bloody loads of 'em and we have a true heritage of motorsports that should not be cast aside. :wink:
88 French Grand Prix by my count! :wink:
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The problem for Liberty is that they're a publicly listed company.

Their shareholders don't just want today's profits. They want growth. Bigger share capitalisation and/or bigger dividends.

To do that they need to chase new markets. You can only bleed the old ones dry so much.

That's the harsh reality facing existing fans.
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Does anyone have a projected date as to when they are holding the Miami GP?
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Ruslan wrote: 2 years ago Does anyone have a projected date as to when they are holding the Miami GP?
I imagine it will be doubleheader with Canadian GP in June. Tennis tournament takes place in April and NFL season means anything from August onwards is impossible by default (so no US-double header with Austin in the fall).
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Yea, according to some articles, it will be in June (or "second quarter of next year," which I gather also means June). As Canada is likely to be on 12 June, then will Miami may be two weeks later (26 June)?

See: https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula ... e%2013.%20
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Ahem...
The worst time to have any sporting event in Florida is June. It's over 35C (95F) on a regular basis and rains (edit: downpours so bad you can't see more than 1 foot in front of you) for 1/2 hour every afternoon because the humidity stays around 99%.

Here's hoping they pick a different date.
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To reiterate what I said in the previous thread, it's either too damn hot or too damn wet in South Florida. If the organizers want to put together a financially successful race in a country that doesn't have a large contingent of F1 fans to fall back on, you're certainly going to be be hard pressed to get fair-weather fans to fill the stands for 2-3 hours just to burn up in near triple-digit temps or get soaked by afternoon showers in the dead of summer.
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Yea, the Grand Prix of Miami tended to be held in February and 12-hours of Sebring in March. Hurricane season traditionally starts on 1 June. So, maybe they are not planning on grouping it with the Canadian GP. They may need to run it in March or April.
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DaleJuniorFan wrote: 2 years ago If the organizers want to put together a financially successful race in a country that doesn't have a large contingent of F1 fans to fall back on...
Miami has been jokingly referred to as the Capital of Latin America. I think there are fans there. It is one of three areas of the U.S. that I think can support an F1 race (the other two being New York and Southern California).
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