2021 F1 race thread *Round 1: Bahrain*

[Mawerick]

Bottom post of the previous page:

New sausage kerbs won't be happening after the pironi crash. More likely they are being removed

Pironi? I think you meant Peroni. Pironi crash happened a while ago. Like... 39 years.

[Ruslan]

Track Limits: Yes they were inconsistent, but the irony here (and maybe it was just my broadcast), is that the track limits were not even looked at or enforced during the race (bad idea) until the RedBull team complained to the stewards about the Lewis' driving. They brought the entire issue to race controls attention. Then Lewis was warned that he would receive the black and white flag if he did it again, so he stopped.

Yes, that was my impression also. What was clear was that:

1. Hamilton was repeatedly violating Turn 4 (and I gather was not the only one).
2. Red Bull discussed it over the radio with Verstappen and Verstappen said it was illegal.
3. Mercedes told Hamilton over the radio that if he exceeded the limits at turn 4 again he would get penalized according to the stewards.
4. Hamilton quit violating the limit.

The missing step, which is that Red Bull complained to the stewards about that I have no evidence of...but, I assume that is probably what happened between point 2 and 3 above.

Had they not complained, would it have been an issue?

Actually, I suspect it would have regardless, as he exited the track to do a pass. But the immediate response on this from the stewards was interesting.

[Antonov]

By the way, Montoya's lap there, even with the additional hairpin, was still a 1m30.2. That would have put him 8th on the grid yesterday.

And in 2004 the fastest 10 race laps were faster than Max's best race lap yesterday.

And bolt on some of today's slick tyres, and they would be easily faster than the class of 2021, right?

[erwin greven]

Just a quote in Wikipedia:

The fastest laps at Albert Park Circuit, Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours, Autodromo Nazionale Monza and Shanghai International Circuit all remain the current lap records, even though three out of these four tracks were still used in F1 in 2019 or 2020.

About the Ferrari F2004.
Engine Ferrari Tipo 053 3.0 L (183 cu in) V10 (90°) naturally-aspirated
Power 900–1,000 horsepower (670–750 kW) @ 18,300 rpm
Weight 605 kg (1,334 lb)

[Everso Biggyballies]

I notice the thread we were and still are discussing the Bahrain GP has now suddenly become the thread for Imola, still nearly a month away. WTF.

I thought we were going to keep with the one thread per race format as we have always done and has I thought worked well?

The problem with one long thread that includes every race is when trying to go back to look at a particular race say next year when it is amongst 22 other GPs for the year is nigh on impossible. I often refer back to GPs from previous years and it is easy with the current system.

Does anyone (other than @Antonov) have a problem with a GP having its own exclusive thread? Do we need to change?

Personally I cannot see any one advantage of an ongoing thread for multiple GPs. Happy to go with the majority feeling, but my thought is as I said before "If it aint broke, dont fix it".

Some input and opinions from other members would be appreciated.

[erwin greven]

Create a new thread. And please call it 2021 Round 2: Emilia Romagna* instead of 2021 F1 race thread *Round 2: Emilia Romagna*. Way too long.

[jimclark]

New sausage kerbs won't be happening after the pironi crash. More likely they are being removed

Pironi? I think you meant Peroni. Pironi crash happened a while ago. Like... 39 years.

Pironi, Peroni; Toemato, Tuhmahto.....?
My sausage was bent but the doctor told me it wasn't from a crash.


He said it was Peyronie's fault.....

[Circuitmaster]

Create a new thread. And please call it 2021 Round 2: Emilia Romagna* instead of 2021 F1 race thread *Round 2: Emilia Romagna*. Way too long.

Seconded

[White six]

New sausage kerbs won't be happening after the pironi crash. More likely they are being removed

Pironi? I think you meant Peroni. Pironi crash happened a while ago. Like... 39 years.

Well you know who I mean clever clogs

[Cheeveer]

Create a new thread. And please call it 2021 Round 2: Emilia Romagna* instead of 2021 F1 race thread *Round 2: Emilia Romagna*. Way too long.

Seconded

Fixed it.

[jimclark]

I notice the thread we were and still are discussing the Bahrain GP has now suddenly become the thread for Imola, still nearly a month away. WTF.

I thought we were going to keep with the one thread per race format as we have always done and has I thought worked well?

The problem with one long thread that includes every race is when trying to go back to look at a particular race say next year when it is amongst 22 other GPs for the year is nigh on impossible. I often refer back to GPs from previous years and it is easy with the current system.

Does anyone (other than @Antonov) have a problem with a GP having its own exclusive thread? Do we need to change?

Personally I cannot see any one advantage of an ongoing thread for multiple GPs. Happy to go with the majority feeling, but my thought is as I said before "If it aint broke, dont fix it".

Some input and opinions from other members would be appreciated.

Agree the above. Less confusing with individual race threads, fer sure.

[XcraigX]

The single thread for all races will also no longer allow the Best Introductions in the World™. Therefore I am violently urging you to embrace your love of Mongols and go with not just 1 thread per race, but the entire suite of race threads. The race thread, the rate the race thread, the guess the pole thread, the rate the drivers thread, the rating of the drivers moustaches thread for each race, and the rating of the race thread introductions pole rating thread per race thread.

But seriously, think of the MONGOLS, @MonteCristo @John @Everso Biggyballies and lets have a separate thread for each race.

Act now before it's too late. For just $1 per hour, you can save a forum and sponsor a race thread.

Thank you from the ministry of threaded loops and looped threads.




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[MonteCristo]

The single thread for all races will also no longer allow the Best Introductions in the World™. Therefore I am violently urging you to embrace your love of Mongols and go with not just 1 thread per race, but the entire suite of race threads. The race thread, the rate the race thread, the guess the pole thread, the rate the drivers thread, the rating of the drivers moustaches thread for each race, and the rating of the race thread introductions pole rating thread per race thread.

But seriously, think of the MONGOLS, @MonteCristo @John @Everso Biggyballies and lets have a separate thread for each race.

Act now before it's too late. For just $1 per hour, you can save a forum and sponsor a race thread.

Thank you from the ministry of threaded loops and looped threads.




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I don't know how, or why, but frankly this whole thing is @John's fault. Race threads and track limits alike.

[XcraigX]

The single thread for all races will also no longer allow the Best Introductions in the World™. Therefore I am violently urging you to embrace your love of Mongols and go with not just 1 thread per race, but the entire suite of race threads. The race thread, the rate the race thread, the guess the pole thread, the rate the drivers thread, the rating of the drivers moustaches thread for each race, and the rating of the race thread introductions pole rating thread per race thread.

But seriously, think of the MONGOLS, @MonteCristo @John @Everso Biggyballies and lets have a separate thread for each race.

Act now before it's too late. For just $1 per hour, you can save a forum and sponsor a race thread.

Thank you from the ministry of threaded loops and looped threads.




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I don't know how, or why, but frankly this whole thing is @John's fault. Race threads and track limits alike.

I'm teasing, but I quite enjoy it. A bit of silliness keeps me interested.

[Everso Biggyballies]

I must confess to having a little chuckle when elsewhere I saw someone claim that Mazepin's race was shorter than Bottas Pitstop!

[Everso Biggyballies]

It had to happen..... Mazepin has taken over the Maldonado reputation

......with dedicated websites relating to his driving record / crash / spin frequency

http://mazesp.in/ (this one has a table of all incidents and videos)
or
https://hasmazepinspuntoday.com/