Alex Zanardi critical after handbike accident

[DoubleFart]

Bottom post of the previous page:

I know you're the biggest contrarian on this forum, but surely even you realise the folly in comparing an event in the 1970's to an event in the 2020's?

Dare I point out that the event organisers 18 months earlier were willing to let Montjuich Park F1 race go ahead, with drivers and mechanics having to go around and tighten the bolts on the "safety" crash barriers?

Yeah, comparing the organisers of that era vs. the organisers of a bike race 45 years later makes perfect sense.

PS, going to call it out because nobody else has bothered - wind your neck in with your attitude towards other posters on this site and your attitude of "well it doesn't interest me so nobody else should care".

[jimclark]

Then why'd you ask "Why should Zanardi pay for the poor judgement of the race organisers?" ?


I understood Ian's emotion regarding poor Alex. I feel for him also.
I posted my opinion "emotion removed", my first thought when I heard how the incident happened, and YOU challenged it. So, who's the contrarian?

I didn't compare organizers period...I'm comparing the two men's judgement. One decided not to take the risk at a great price, the WDC. The other chose to take a foolish risk (traffic coming the opposite direction on a public road) and paid an even larger price, his health.
That's not an "attitude to any poster"....'just an observation of a bad decision.

What has "Dare I point out that the event organisers 18 months earlier were willing to let Montjuich Park F1 race go ahead, with drivers and mechanics having to go around and tighten the bolts on the "safety" crash barriers?" got to do with anything?

The last line of your post....again, I don't get it. Zanardi's health does interest me...greatly.... When did I even imply "nobody should care" ?

I suggest you follow your own advice and "wind your neck in". And, have a great day.

[Ian-S]

Calm down chaps, iIm not offended by what was said, I can kind of see the point, but as I've been trying to argue in the halo/screen thread, racing drivers (and hand bikers) are all adults and capable of making the decision about whether the risk is worth it.

Although having said that, the events of the last few months have proven to me there are many people on this planet that shouldn't be trusted to run a bath, let alone make risk assessments about their own safety. I guess you reap what you sow, for so many years governments and organisers of events have tried to micromanage risk and safety to an extent where they would pretend it's almost eliminated, so many people put their trust in the organisers to keep them safe with very tragic results such as this, it's no wonder we have stupid arrows on the floor telling us which way to walk now.... We've managed to micromanager risk assessment and personal responsibility out of almost everything.

[jimclark]

Ian, I don't believe you would get down on that thing, knowing you're going to be racing along as fast as you can and could possibly lose it in front of head on traffic because you thought the "organizers" "were keeping you safe". I heard it was a "training" session. Was that sanctioned by the organizer or just decided by the dozen riders taking part?

Sanctioned or not, that's a damned stupid-arse decision for anyone to make....something a very young , non-thinking child would make.

When my father taught me to fly, he taught me to go over the aircraft before getting in it....EVERY time.
Whenever I rented a plane, I did my usual checkout of the aircraft. An employee might come along and tell it wasn't necessary, save the extra rental time, they've already checked it out, it's our job.
"Thanks, but no thanks" I'd think to myself, and continue on MY routine.
If something was amiss and I had to put it down somewhere (hopefully not even a crash) I would never have been able to live with myself for saying "but they told me it was good...."

[Ian-S]

I got out of motorsports long before the present bubblewrap era started. If I recounted some of the stories from when I was involved today people would be horrified. We would regularly just jump in other peoples cars during test days and take them for a run, a certain one shot wonder Formula One World Champ took my old Swift for a spin around Snetterton when he was 14, there was no such thing as risk assessment back then LOL

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[Everso Biggyballies]

Thanks for the update. Fingers crossed that he comes out of his coma without further trauma, the neurological injuries are not as bad as feared and Alex can make a full recovery.

[caneparo]

From repubblica.it

We start thinking about the rehabilitation of Alex Zanardi. The hospital of Siena in its new press release on the conditions of the sample also includes this activity, which inevitably will have to be carried out elsewhere. Probably the most suitable structure is already being evaluated. When the patient's condition permits, the transfection will then be arranged. However, it will still take some time before moving the pilot from the Tuscan facility where he has been since the day of the accident on 19 June. The hospital has made it official that the progressive reduction of drugs has begun. The drop in sedative dosage actually started last week. These days there would have been small signs of neurological response but it is too early to evaluate them. It still takes time and as they say from the hospital "it will take a few days for further evaluations of the patient by the multidisciplinary team that takes care of the athlete, to allow any continuation of his therapeutic and rehabilitation path". Meanwhile, the cardio-respiratory and metabolic parameters remain stable; the neurological picture remains serious and the prognosis remains confidential. Further information on Alex Zanardi's health conditions will be released next week in agreement with the family.




Zanardi has been hospitalized in a pharmacological coma in the intensive care unit of the Tuscan hospital since last June 19, following the accident that took place around 16.50 on the same day on the state road that connects Pienza and San Quirico d’Orcia, in the Siena area

[erwin greven]

thanks for the update Toni.

[Everso Biggyballies]

ZANARDI MOVED TO NEW MEDICAL FACILITY
21 July, 2020


Alex Zanardi has been transferred to another medical facility after coming out of his medically-induced coma, the Siena University Hospital announced on Tuesday.

No indication of the extent of his neurological injuries, but according to this statement he has been transferred to a “specialized recovery and functional rehabilitation center” for further treatment.
Hopefully better or more specific news to follow.

At the hospital since he suffered severe head and facial injuries in a hand-cycling accident on June 19, Zanardi had been placed under sedation in order to aid his recovery.

Having reduced the sedation over the course of the past few days, the decision has now been taken to move the ex-Formula 1 driver and two-time CART champion to a “specialized recovery and functional rehabilitation center” for further treatment.

“Our professionals remain at the disposal of this extraordinary person and his family for the further stages of clinical, diagnostic and therapeutic development, as always happens in these cases,” said the hospital’s general manager, Valtere Giovannini.

“I sincerely thank the multidisciplinary team that took care of Zanardi putting in place a great professionalism, recognized nationally and beyond.

“The athlete spent over a month in our hospital: he underwent three delicate surgeries and showed a path of stability of his clinical conditions and vital parameters that allowed the reduction and suspension of sedation, and the consequent possibility of to be transferred to a facility for the necessary neuro-rehabilitation.”

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#keepfightingAlex.

[caneparo]

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The Presidium of the Valduce "Villa Beretta" Hospital in Costa Masnaga, is a structure that has become famous for "illustrious" guests that it has hosted over the years as the founder of the Northern League Umberto Bossi and the former President of the Republic Francesco Cossiga. "Villa Beretta is a rehabilitation facility with high intensity and rehabilitation complexity. It deals with major disabilities, traumas of the muscular system and nervous system in the brain and medulla," explains Dr. Franco Molteni, head and head of the specialist rehabilitation department . "We have cutting-edge technologies such as wearable exoskeletons for the re-education of the path and the upper limbs". As for patients like Alex Zanardi, therapy "can last for months - explains the doctor - We are talking about a rehabilitation medicine that aims to maintain the patient's conditions of clinical stability. When there are such complex conditions, all vital organs must be constantly monitored considering that there is also the motor and cognitive recovery of the patient: a job done by psychologists and speech therapists ".

[Everso Biggyballies]

Thanks for the info on the rehab centre @caneparo
Seems like he is in a good place for his rehab. Hopefully he makes a full recovery, or at least he is able to live a cognitive life, and able to communicate normally.

#keepfightingAlex.

[caneparo]

Not so far from here, about 45 minutes. We had quite often concerts in that area

[PTRACER]

Zanardi's son says rehabilitation to be long

Alex Zanardi's son says there are "encouraging signs" after the former F1 driver left hospital this week.

The former Lotus and Williams driver's month-long sedation for severe head and facial injuries is now over and he has been moved to a rehabilitation clinic.

But his son Niccolo told Corriere della Sera that his father remains unconscious for now, even though the signs are "encouraging".

"He will make it, I am sure," said the 21-year-old. "He will do it again this time and one day we will talk about it. He will talk to me and to my children. I am hopeful, as is my mother."

However, Niccolo Zanardi also admitted there remain concerns about his father's eyesight.

"That is not the most important thing now. What matters the most is knowing whether he can communicate with us again. We have a long way to go," he said.

"We are happy because his recovery has been much faster than we expected, but we shouldn't be surprised because we're talking about Dad.

"The energy of that man is incredible. He is unusually strong.

"Without going into details, he is a little better and he is beginning to recover. There is no more threat to his life, and this is already saying a lot.

"I repeat: the rehabilitation will take a long time," Zanardi jr added.

[caneparo]

Unfortunally not good news

"Today, in the face of the unstable clinical condition of the patient Alex Zanardi, after appropriate consultations with Dr. Franco Molteni, Head of the Department of Specialist Rehabilitation Villa Beretta, a facility belonging to the Valduce Hospital, where the patient was hospitalized by the July 21, and the specialists of reference, the transfer of the same was arranged, with adequate means and adequate assistance, to the Intensive Care Unit of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan ".


This was announced in a statement by Claudio Zanon, health director of the Valduce Hospital, specifying that "no further information on the case will be released". The transfer, as a precaution, would have been decided due to a lowering of the athlete's values.

[PTRACER]

Unfortunally not good news

"Today, in the face of the unstable clinical condition of the patient Alex Zanardi, after appropriate consultations with Dr. Franco Molteni, Head of the Department of Specialist Rehabilitation Villa Beretta, a facility belonging to the Valduce Hospital, where the patient was hospitalized by the July 21, and the specialists of reference, the transfer of the same was arranged, with adequate means and adequate assistance, to the Intensive Care Unit of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan ".


This was announced in a statement by Claudio Zanon, health director of the Valduce Hospital, specifying that "no further information on the case will be released". The transfer, as a precaution, would have been decided due to a lowering of the athlete's values.

So he went back to Intensive Care???