Sebastian Vettel retiring after 2022 season

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Just as, "that god", Lance's performance this session (P3) was. :)
Time deleted cos he did it in Daddy's car :rofl: (only joking). Or Sergio gave him a tow. Or he has secret exclusive updates.

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Stoooooopp!!! Image

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Sainz spoke up about Perez' firing, which was good of him. On the other hand, I also think that the firing of Vettel was handled pretty shabbily (and I ain't no Vettel fan).
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What a lap by Russell. He just planted it through the gravel and just went for it, still outqualifying Latifi! That car was sideways! Amazing.
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Perez, like Vettel, was not "fired". The contract is being fulfilled. ;)

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Everso Biggyballies wrote: 3 years ago
jimclark wrote: 3 years ago
Just as, "that god", Lance's performance this session (P3) was. :)
Time deleted cos he did it in Daddy's car :rofl: (only joking). Or Sergio gave him a tow. Or he has secret exclusive updates.

Or it was just a good lap of merit.

I'll get my coat. :haha:

Stroll has the aerodynamic updates, and Perez doesn't. Of all the tracks that you need every bit of aero you can get...
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Yes, he does. And he's doing a fine job with them. He's a "god". (Hopefully you know I don't mean that. I just wanted to beat DF to it. :))
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Oh look, Stroll gets the upgrades and still can't beat Perez. He'll get ahead of him because of the 1 place penalty Perez has for what I consider to be a non-blame incident.
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Oh well. Apply for a stewards position. :)
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So racing point/Aston Martin hired a Finished driver like Vettel Just to Make look good Lance Stroll and give sense to his career. I really can’t understand why Vettel offered himself for such a farce. If he doesn’t trash Stroll he will be remembered as the bogus 4 wdc. Really can’t stand the comparison with The likes of Prost. Another confirmation of how it is impossible to compare this f1 with the past
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caneparo wrote: 3 years ago So racing point/Aston Martin hired a Finished driver like Vettel Just to Make look good Lance Stroll and give sense to his career. I really can’t understand why Vettel offered himself for such a farce. If he doesn’t trash Stroll he will be remembered as the bogus 4 wdc. Really can’t stand the comparison with The likes of Prost. Another confirmation of how it is impossible to compare this f1 with the past
This idea that Aston want vettel to do badly is hilarious :haha:
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caneparo wrote: 3 years ago So racing point/Aston Martin hired a Finished driver like Vettel Just to Make look good Lance Stroll and give sense to his career. I really can’t understand why Vettel offered himself for such a farce. If he doesn’t trash Stroll he will be remembered as the bogus 4 wdc. Really can’t stand the comparison with The likes of Prost. Another confirmation of how it is impossible to compare this f1 with the past
The idea that any FOUR time WDC is bogus is absolutely ridiculous 🙄

Although he is certainly not at that level anymore.
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Vettel has always been one of my favorites but his last 2 years in Ferrari have changed my high praise on him. His mistakes are under the eyes of everybody and also a fan of him like me must admit the he would have never win 4 championship in a row if his competitor had a competitive car at least at the level of his Red Bull. Maybe he would have won 1 or 2, but it’s pretty clear that Alonso would have beat him on the same car. If it was not for double decker diffuser, and such tricks, Red Bull would have been a car like others and Vettel had to sweat more and more.

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caneparo wrote: 3 years ago If it was not for double decker diffuser, and such tricks, Red Bull would have been a car like others and Vettel had to sweat more and more.
Motorsports is a teamsport. Would Mansell have one WDC if his Williams was not that utterly dominant? Fangio 5 WDC if he would have sticked to one brand? How many titles would Moss had had if he had switched to a non-British team?
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caneparo wrote: 3 years agoVettel has always been one of my favorites but his last 2 years in Ferrari have changed my high praise on him. His mistakes are under the eyes of everything and also a fan of him like him must admit the he would have never win 4 championship in a row if his competitor had a competitive car at least at the level of his Red Bull. Maybe he would have win 1 or 2, but it’s pretty clear that Alonso would have beat him on the same car. If it was not for double decker diffuser, and such tricks, Red Bull would have been a car like others and Vettel had to sweat more and more.
We get to see Seb on his fourth different team.....what he can do with the RP. :dunno:

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The sport is called "auto" racing, not just "driver" racing, because there are the cars that are involved in the outcome.
We get to see 20 great drivers and 10 different great teams/cars competing for wins and championships.

Two competitions for the price of one.......'gets no better than that! Great sport, ain't it?! :happy:

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erwin greven wrote: 3 years ago
caneparo wrote: 3 years ago If it was not for double decker diffuser, and such tricks, Red Bull would have been a car like others and Vettel had to sweat more and more.
Motorsports is a teamsport. Would Mansell have one WDC if his Williams was not that utterly dominant? Fangio 5 WDC if he would have sticked to one brand? How many titles would Moss had had if he had switched to a non-British team?
You got it. If I have to evaluate Vettel as a driver I must underline the difficulties he’s had lately, not only the dominance (yet some times he had to struggle against superb drives by Alonso). You can’t summarize all in motor sports only looking at the numbers. Otherwise we could say that bottas is faster than Gilles villeneuve. I have been supporting Vettel for years and I Have to regret how he has suffered the pressure in Ferrari. When his certainty have fallen, when in Red Bull he was told he was no more the number 1 driver, when marchionne suddenly died, he has melted like snow under the sun. It legitimate to question how much of his 4 titles come thanks to Adrian Newey.
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