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2026 New F1 / FIA CHASSIS Regulations Discussion

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I thought we had a thread for this important subject but I scoured the thread title for many pages and found nothing beyond this post I quoted from a random F1 discussion thread. It has at least details of where we were then, and identified the FIA ojectives of having lighter more mimble less downforce cars. We know that will never happen.

Anyway we need a thread to discuss this subject in as it will become an increasingly relevant subject in the coming months. 2026 isnt that far away. We have a thread for the engine side so this is just for chassis and. non engine related stuff.

I have just read some alarming news which prompted this thread. That subject is in the 2nd post of the thread below this one.

A bit of background from an old thread. Some of it might be superseded now, but this is a starting point.
Everso Biggyballies wrote: 4 months ago We have known from the release of plans for a complete new car and power unit regulation change for 2026 that the target was forr lighter more nimble cars but to date although lots of ideas have been aired..... until now the FIA has not really expanded on the more specific details of what is coming on the chassis side. Until now.....

As briefly mentioned in another thread the head of single seaters Nikolas Tombazis has now opened up more about where things are heading for 2026.. I felt that as we have a thread for the 2026 cars here it makes sense to discuss it here rather than a general / miscellaneous thread.

From Autosport is this article with the details of what Tombazis has outlined.
Revealed: The FIA's plans for "nimble" 2026 F1 cars and moveable aero

Smaller, lighter and more nimble machinery

One of the biggest complaints about the current cars is that they are so heavy. This not only makes them less responsive, but it is also punishing on tyres – which are critical to the spectacle.

As the FIA moves towards delivering the first draft of outline regulations by the end of next June, it is clear car dimensions are going to change for 2026.

Tombazis has explained that the basic layout of an F1 2026 car is defined and will be different to what we have

The cars will be shorter, with the wheelbase likely trimmed down to 3400mm from the current maximum 3600mm. The cars will also be narrower by 10cm, so will be reduced from 2000mm to 1900mm.

All of the above are aimed at helping the FIA deliver on one of its key targets – which is shedding a lot of bulk from the cars.

"We aim to have a significantly lower weight limit, and we are looking to reduce the weight limit by 40 to 50 kilos in 2026," said Tombazis.

"The way we want to do that is related to what we've termed the 'nimble car' concept, because we basically feel that in recent years the cars have become a bit too bulky and too heavy."

The smaller dimensions will automatically help with the weight, but another factor will be crucial as well: a reduction of downforce.

It will mean less load on parts, and that will mean teams will not have to make things so beefy.

"This lower downforce means that a lot of the loading on components, such as suspension, will reduce and that will enable the teams to reduce the weight consequentially," said Tombazis.

More savings will also come from F1 ditching the current 18-inch wheels.

Tombazis added: "We are tentatively aiming for wheels that are 16-inch wheel rims, with smaller wheel diameter and smaller width both front and rear. All of these things we believe are pushing towards a significantly lower weight."

Robust racing focus with less downforce

In aerodynamic terms, the FIA views the 2026 cars as an evolution of the concept that we have right now.

They will still be ground effect, and the hope is that the rules will be improved to ensure cars can follow each other.

This comes amid the recent admission that some loopholes were left in the current regulations that allowed teams to introduce designs that hurt the airflow to pursuing cars – such as outwash from the front wings.

As Tombazis said: "The 2023 season had a small worsening of the close racing features. The cars had degraded a bit in their ability to follow each other closely, and we think we understand why, how and what we need to do.

"We believe that for the next round [of rules in 2026] we'll achieve a much more robust close racing solution."

The plan is for less downforce and drag, and current simulations do not point to lap times being dramatically worse than they are now, although ultimately Tombazis says outright speed is not its biggest worry.

"It is really not a huge factor," he said. "It's going to be very close to now.

"I think we're going to be within a couple of seconds or something like that. But even if it was five seconds slower, we're not going to be sweating too much."

In terms of their looks, Tombazis says the 2026 cars will be similar to now.
"Somebody who knows about it will be able to see the differences, but they will look like F1 cars. On that, there wouldn't be any doubt."


Moveable aero and DRS plans

One of the step changes from the current cars will be the addition of moveable aero to help reduce drag on the straights.
There has been some uncertainty over how this will play out – and whether it will scupper the potential for DRS on the straights.
There was even talk of it being used to introduce a reverse form of DRS, where cars in front have to run more aggressive wing angles.

Tombazis has now clarified more about the F1 2026 ideas.

"There will definitely be a change of incidence of the wing on the straight to achieve the low drag," he said.

"But there will definitely not be any slowing down of the front car by some means. That simply wouldn't work."

In terms of DRS, plans have not been finalised – with the FIA weighing up several different ideas to deliver overtaking opportunities.

"There will be something equivalent to the current DRS, which will basically enable the following car that is within a certain limit to potentially get in a position to attack," he said.

"What form that mechanism will take: whether it will be an additional change of an aerodynamic component on the straight, or an additional change of the aerodynamic component in the corner, or whether it will be part of the energy of the engine....which of the three, we're still doing our best simulations to arrive to the best possible solution.

"What we don't want to have is cars basically diving past each other on the straight. We want cars arriving close to each other at the braking point and there being a fight, and drivers having to use their skill."

Tombazis says coming up with a DRS solution that is too effective, so can be tuned down, is a much better thing to have than going the other way and ending up with cars that cannot overtake.

"We will never want to make it too easy, but we also don't feel that we can say: 'Oh, well, it's not needed anymore'," he said.

"We can't risk arriving into a situation where overtaking becomes impossible again, or something like that. So we want to have it in the pocket and to use it moderately, but not highly.

"Overtaking must also be a fight. We don't want the cars just to drive past each other."

The unfounded "disaster scenario" fears

Talk of the 2026 regulation plans earlier this year was dominated by concerns from Red Bull about a potential for big problems on the horizon.

With the ICE element of the power unit going from around 550-560kw down to 400kw, and the battery element jumping from 150kw to 350kw, it was obvious that putting the future engines in the current cars would lead to battery power running out quite early on the straights.

And even with lighter cars, if drag was too high, places like Monza could be a challenge and force drivers to do weird stuff – like changing down gears on the straight – to try to get some recharging going.

Tombazis thinks those worries were unfounded and based on early simulation models that were far away from where things are at right now.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/revea ... /10557364/


Will the plans work, and will they have the effect on racing they hope for? The reality is whatever rules they set it wont be long before the Neweys of this world will unearth the loopholes or find alternatie ways of extracting performance with the likleyhood we will just have another set of issues to contend with.

It is good to read that they will be specifically ensuring the cars go on a diet. Probably not enough of a diet in my view and yes F1 cars will still be longer overall than a NASCAR.

Downside to me is they still see the need for DRS.... even if they call it something else along the lines of an adjustible wing or movable aero devise, if it involves a movable wing element that reduces drag it is still basically DRS.

What specifically would you guys like to see in the future
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OK a bit of an update from the above of where we now know the chassis regs are headed....

As we know there will be new chassis regs in 2026 to make the cars between 40-50kg lighter. :thumbsup:

The cars will be shorter, with the wheelbase likely trimmed down to 3400mm from the current maximum 3600mm. The cars will also be narrower by 10cm, so will be reduced from 2000mm to 1900mm.


Another step change from the current cars will be the addition of extra moveable (active) aero to help reduce drag on the straights.

Thats where we were at last week / month., with the final regs sets to be confirmed and signed off by June. All going to plan and on schedule.......

However the 'active' aero plans have had a bit of a broadside hit today.
There is a major problem.Teams have had models of the planned car for a while to undertake wind tunnel evaluation. A brief background.... the engines are more electric for 2026, and apparently one of the compromises is that the cars wont be able to go as fast for as long. Basically the cars will run out of puff on the straights... knowing this the plan was moveable aero that would reduce downforce dramatically on the straight. Like a super DRS. (For those my age think of the Chaparral Sports cars with the big wing that used to flatten out on the straight and then become the source of huge downforce under braking and cornering.

The teams have all found alarming discrepancies with what the FIA had anticipated and indeed a major rethink is going to have to happen.It seems the cars will under the proposed direction will be simply not feasible from it seems any perameter. It appears that on simulators the complete lack of downforce on the straight is showing the cars have no traction or grip. Im probably wide of the mark saying they. will become aiplanes, but they for sure wont be as attached to the ground as current cars.

Fangio is flawed (Fangio is the code name of the FIA model being evaluated). The plan was for a super slippery car to compensate for the compromises created by the engine changes so the cars maintained / improved straightline speed. The lack of aero means lack of traction and grip in a straightline.

There will without doubt need some back to the drawing board changes.
. Yes change the aero to give the grip and traction on the straight.... will that reduce / compromise the performance and lap times.

It is perhaps over dramatic of me but Its a worry when they talk of "Frankenstein cars with F2 performance." Thats not what I signed up for.

It seems the answer might be with moveable front aero. How many more buttons / levers can they fit on a steering wheel, and how much concentration will that divert from driving. (ie George Russell admitted he was twiddling things on his wheel when he had his last lap moment with Alonso. The fact Alonso braked earlier meant Russell didnt notice because he was too busy adjusting things, and refocussed on the track to see Alonso closer than expected.

Its real "merde hits fan" stuff. There will be an answer but how long will it take and how much will the original plan be compromised.

The good news is they are aware of the problems before the rules have been finalised

This article from Autosport that follows explains it better than my dramatic version. .....
F1’s 2026 active aero plan set for change after alarming simulator findings

F1’s active aero plans for 2026 are set for a revamp following some alarming findings in simulator running of an early car model

As part of the effort to increase car performance to help accommodate the characteristics of the new turbo hybrid engines that feature a 50/50 power split between the internal combustion engine and battery, the new cars are going to have moveable aero.

The idea is that the car’s wings will be able to run in a high-downforce configuration in corners to help deliver grip, before shifting to an ultra low drag configuration on the straights to help boost straightline speed.

One path being explored was for only the rear wing to be moveable, as it could then work easily in conjunction with DRS and would be the least complicated solution.

However, with some teams having recently been evaluating what is known as the baseline ‘Fangio’ car model in simulators to try to understand how this would work, some concerning characteristics emerged.

According to sources, when the rear wing was in its most low-drag configuration and the engine was at full power, the car was almost undriveable – with multiple examples of drivers spinning on straights under acceleration or being unable to take the smallest of curves without the rear stepping out.

This was triggered by a shift in aero balance that was estimated to be three times as much as is currently experienced when DRS is open.

One insider even suggested that the only way to prevent the cars spinning was to drive so conservatively that the lap times ended up being slower than current Formula 2 machinery.

It is understood that FIA representatives visited team facilities recently to get a better understanding of what is going on and what can be learned from the simulator findings.

And FIA sources have revealed that the conclusion has been reached that the moveable aero plan will not work with only the rear wing changing configuration.

Instead, the FIA has decided that the 2026 aero plan will need to incorporate both the front and rear wing moving in conjunction with each other if the cars are going to deliver the performance characteristics hoped for.

By ensuring that the two wings work together, it should help reduce the aero balance offset that has been causing trouble in the simulator.


As efforts continue to frame the aerodynamic regulations before the end of June, Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said he welcomed the FIA listening to team concerns about what they were finding out.
Horner wrote:Horner famously warned last year that there was a risk of F1 being left with ‘Frankenstein cars’ because of the way that the chassis rules had to fit around the choice of power unit.

“I think there's been some good progression,” Horner said. “I think that the FIA have taken on board some of the feedback and some alterations have been made.

“We're waiting for the chassis regulations, which will be a fundamental part of the 2026 package now and how that interacts with these power units.

“The various working groups are working hard on that and it's important that we conclude something in the near future.”

Asked if the simulator findings from teams had been a cause for concern, Horner said: “The rules are the same for everybody at the end of the day.

“So, it's how you apply them and translate them. I don't think we're afraid of whatever the rules will be, as it's the same starting point for everybody.

“When they're finalised, that's when we'll no doubt discover whatever issues there are with the rules, but that's no different to any other regulation change.”
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When Horner called it out, they (Merc fans) all said Red Bull were behind, they were struggling etc. Now it turns out they weren't BS'ing.

Just like the technical directives in 2022 and 2023 where everybody (Mercedes fans) said red bull were cheating, and they weren't.

What a shocker.
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I must admit Horner's words here make sense. When I first posted. of the setback I had not read his input. He is not making the current chassis / aero shortcomings out to be the horrendous cock up that the media are portraying and quite. simply he says it as it is. Everyone is in the same boat and the truth as to the impact of the new regulations will be as it always is when wholesale changes are made. Some teams will interpret the rules better than others and will have therefore an advantage.

Of course for 2026 we have a completely new engine type and format plus a totally new chassis ruleset which will increase the challenge to all...., how the chassis and engine package will work together is still the big unknown factor, exactly as he calls it. Everyone starts from the same step zero point.

Historically when it comes to the major chassis / aero changes Red Bull seem to do it better. The Newey factor of course is a major part, but the systems and resources they have seem to be good. Perhaps their potential weak link is their in real terms debut scratch built engine as RBPT. We all know the current RBPT engine is Honda born and developed. RBPT will of course have a lot of engine knowledge to fall back on, and for sure they have got some valuable people on board who know their engine stuff.

Who will come out of top in 2026 will be who has the best package of engine and chassis, but more importantly who gets the interaction between the two facets right. I dont doubt that Red Bull will have the best chassis part, but will they have the best package with a decent enough engine.

I am a little less concerned with the final outcome now than initially, having read Horner's comments. That the teams collectively have found the shortcomings of the initial plan early and with time to react before the FIA regs are set in concrete is comforting.

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This video covers some engine stuff as well but mainly chassis and some of the issues with and still to be decded chassis regs.

Its been posted for just a few hours now and already has over 150,000 plays.
F1’s 2026 rules are a massive source of wild speculation and controversy.

Drivers having to downshift on straights, cars spinning out of control, extreme drag levels and weird active aerodynamics tricks - we’ve heard it all over the past year or so.

The next generation of F1 car is less than two years from being reality, but the regulations still haven’t been defined with a deadline of June 2024 fast approaching.

A lot of what has been claimed about the rules is rooted in outdated information or has exaggerated some issues that were never really serious topics or concerns.

So here's the truth about where F1's headed in 2026.
00:00 Intro
02:05 What F1's trying to achieve
04:11 Weird engine tricks?
06:37 Not push-to-pass
09:53 Out of control cars?
11:46 A small win for 2026



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