[DTM] discussion - 2023 season

[Vassago]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Mick Wishofer has been announced as the second Grasser driver. He competed in ADAC GT Masters the last four seasons.

Only one empty seat left at Project 1.

[Vassago]

Times from pre-season test at Red Bull Ring.

https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/mer ... /10457502/

Looks like the second Project 1 seat is between Esteban Muth and Dev Gore.

Day 1 results:
Position Driver Team Time Gap
1 Rene Rast Schubert-BMW 1:28.469
2 Kelvin van der Linde Abt-Audi 1:28.481 +0.012s
3 Ricardo Feller Abt-Audi 1:28.513 +0.044s
4 David Schumacher Winward-Mercedes 1:28.741 +0.272s
5 Jusuf Owega Landgraf-Mercedes 1:28.771 +0.302s
6 Mick Wishofer Grasser-Lamborghini 1:28.902 +0.433s
7 Ayhancan Güven Bernhard-Porsche 1:29.029 +0.560s
8 Luca Engstler Engstler-Audi 1:29.053 +0.584s
9 Arjun Maini HRT-Mercedes 1:29.074 +0.605s
10 Laurin Heinrich Bernhard-Porsche 1:29.099 +0.630s
11 Tim Heinemann Toksport-WRT-Porsche 1:29.109 +0.640s
12 Jack Aitken Emil-Frey-Ferrari 1:29.116 +0.647s
13 Clemens Schmid Grasser-Lamborghini 1:29.139 +0.670s
14 Franck Perera SSR-Lamborghini 1:29.168 +0.699s
15 Luca Stolz HRT-Mercedes 1:29.179 +0.710s
16 Thierry Vermeulen Emil-Frey-Ferrari 1:29.188 +0.719s
17 Thomas Preining Manthey-EMA-Porsche 1:29.210 +0.741s
18 Christian Engelhart Toksport-WRT-Porsche 1:29.330 +0.861s
19 Dennis Olsen Manthey-EMA-Porsche 1:29.397 +0.928s
20 Sandy Mitchell SSR-Lamborghini 1:29.417 +0.948s
21 Alessio Deledda SSR-Lamborghini 1:30.488 +1.019s

Day 2 results:
Position Driver Team Time Gap
1 Maro Engel Landgraf-Mercedes 1:28.117
2 Sheldon van der Linde Schubert-BMW 1:28.138 +0.021s
3 Arjun Maini HRT-Mercedes 1:28.363 +0.246s
4 Ayhancan Güven Bernhard-Porsche 1:28.388 +0.271s
5 Marco Wittmann Project-1-BMW 1:28.403 +0.286s
6 Jusuf Owega Landgraf-Mercedes 1:28.406 +0.289s
7 Rene Rast Schubert-BMW 1:28.417 +0.300s
8 Ricardo Feller Abt-Audi 1:28.463 +0.346s
9 Kelvin van der Linde Abt-Audi 1:28.481 +0.364s
10 Luca Stolz HRT-Mercedes 1:28.494 +0.377s
11 Dennis Olsen Manthey-EMA-Porsche 1:28.577 +0.460s
12 Thomas Preining Manthey-EMA-Porsche 1:28.603 +0.486s
13 Laurin Heinrich Bernhard-Porsche 1:28.611 +0.494s
14 David Schumacher Winward-Mercedes 1:28.741 +0.624s
15 Tim Heinemann Toksport-WRT-Porsche 1:28.777 +0.660s
16 Luca Engstler Engstler-Audi 1:28.787 +0.670s
17 Mick Wishofer Grasser-Lamborghini 1:28.795 +0.678s
18 Clemens Schmid Grasser-Lamborghini 1:28.935 +0.818s
19 Jack Aitken Emil-Frey-Ferrari 1:28.943 +0.826s
20 Franck Perera SSR-Lamborghini 1:28.980 +0.863s
21 Thierry Vermeulen Emil-Frey-Ferrari 1:28.994 +0.877s
22 Christian Engelhart Toksport-WRT-Porsche 1:29.053 +0.936s
23 Sandy Mitchell SSR-Lamborghini 1:29.132 +1.015s
24 Alessio Deledda SSR-Lamborghini 1:29.853 +1.736s
25 Dev Gore/Esteban Muth Project-1-BMW 1:29.874 +1.757s

[Vassago]

Attempto Racing rebranded as Tresor Orange1 has returned with two Audi cars after fielding one last season. Mattia Drudi and Patric Niederhauser are the drivers. Expect them to be stuck down in the field tbh.

I wonder if Audi's rumoured decision to shut down the customer support for 2024 means they are simply rolling out whatever is left in the warehouse for one last season instead of sending it to junkyard.

[Vassago]

Mirko Bortolotti won the first Oschersleben practice ahead of Mercedes trio Schumacher, Auer & Engel. Kelvin vd Linde as the best Audi in 5th, Sheldon vd Linde the best BMW in 8th. 26 of 27 cars within one second, the only one oustide was surprise, surprise Alessio Deledda.

Bortolotti is an easy pick for a first time DTM winner, he had a bunch of podiums and Top 5s but is yet to win one of these races.

[Vassago]

Schubert BMW 1-2 in the second practice. Since ADAC has taken back the series they seemingly went back to the old DTM style door numbers again:

[Vassago]

Perera on pole for Race 1. Three Lambos in the top four on the grid. Sheldon vd Linde only 19th.

[Vassago]

Franck Perera won the season opener from pole. Sim racer Heinemann and Jack Aitken on the podium. Undercut was very efficient and Mirko Bortolotti who was the last to pit dropped from 2nd to 8th as a result. I expect teams adjusting their pit windows tomorrow.

Many bad pitstops during the race including for Sheldon van der Linde and both Manthey Porsches. VD Linde was one of 8 retirements along with Wittmann and Maini.

[Vassago]

The stupid "mechanics have to hold tires in the air" rule that cost Thomas Preining victory in the second Oschersleben race has been dropped. Good riddance. The pit box "long lap" penalty is still quite curious since it costs the penalised driver enormous ammount of time for sure.

https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/dtm ... /10485523/

[Everso Biggyballies]

I must admit I have not followed DTM much of late since they stopped live coverage here and coverage seemed limited, but reading this made me actually search my TV guide for any info.... found the have Highlights of Oschersleben in the guide and available to stream on the 'Bein Sport" channels.... A bit surprised tbh but its on my watchlist now. I always thought they were more soccer /tennis focussed so never bothered to look whats on. I will now get back into it a bit more now I know at can stream it at will.

[Cheeveer]

The stupid "mechanics have to hold tires in the air" rule that cost Thomas Preining victory in the second Oschersleben race has been dropped. Good riddance. The pit box "long lap" penalty is still quite curious since it costs the penalised driver enormous ammount of time for sure.

https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/dtm ... /10485523/

Good! Could not for the life of me understand what that penalty was for at the time. That said, Preining looks like the man to beat this season.

[Vassago]

Yeah, Preining was one of my locks for Top 5 finish in the standings, maybe even Top 3. It's still hard to figure out who the outright championship favorite should be. It will probably come down to consistency and avoiding "bad" weekends.

[Vassago]

Maro Engel takes pole for the first Zandvoort race. The race starts in 40 mins time.

[erwin greven]

Sadly i was not able to watch anything of the DTM this weekend. Geo blocked and VPN did now work.

[Vassago]

Maro Engel dominated the Zandvoort Race 1 and won by six seconds. Sheldon vd Linde finished 2nd ahead of Perera & Bortolotti Lambos.

David Schumacher had another stinker, making contact on the opening lap and getting a DNF puncture. If his last name wasn't what it is, he'd be nowhere near a Winward Mercedes ride (basically #1 brand team in the series given Lucas Auer is his teammate).

[Everso Biggyballies]

I must admit I have not followed DTM much of late since they stopped live coverage here and coverage seemed limited, but reading this made me actually search my TV guide for any info.... found the have Highlights of Oschersleben in the guide and available to stream on the 'beIN Sport" channels.... A bit surprised tbh but its on my watchlist now. I always thought they were more soccer /tennis focussed so never bothered to look whats on. I will now get back into it a bit more now I know I can stream it at will.

Just checked to see when the highlights for Zandvoort were on only to be told DTM is now being shown live, not in highlights form!. Too late for race 1 yesterday, but they have replays ready to stream. Im just watching the 2nd Oschersleben race atm and Zandvoort is queued up for after that.

It gets even better.... Just noticed also that they are even showing qualy live for race 2 shortly. Its on at 17:10 here so must be an early start for them at Zandvoort. 9:10 am(?). So yeah, very impressed with beIN Sports.

[Vassago]

Yeah, the DTM is streaming the races live, with ADAC taking over the series again it wasn't entirely certain that would be the case like in the ITC era.

It's 10:00 am CET and the ADAC GT4 Race 2 is ready to start. That is streamed live on the ADAC Motorsports YT channel (with commentary).