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Iniially plan was let the teams operate freely within budget. FiA in their infinite wisdom went the opposite direction. We have budget and restrictions on the top of it. This situation begs a question what is then a value of WCC?
The FIA and common sense don't even belong in the same sentence!
Sounds better, but I'm sure they will find a way to make it worse...Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑1 year ago New Format for Sprint race weekends.
I know I for one was always very anti the whole Sprint Race concept and in particular the format where the Sprint race sets the qualifying / grid for the GP, and the whole business of a Practice session after qualifying.
Well it seems the format is about to change. Nothing firmed yet but a new concept has been agreed by the teams and the forces that be. I dont think it answers all the issues of the old format but it seems to counter my main worry or the Sprint race results setting the race grid. Those days it seems are numbered.
Sprint race events already / previously featured two practice sessions instead of the usual three, as the extra race took up one of the practice slots.
The proposal seems to suggest that F1 intends to reduce that to a single hour for the first sprint event in Azerbaijan, turning second practice into a dedicated qualifying session for the sprint race later that afternoon. This would mean Friday’s qualifying session sets the starting order for Sunday’s grand prix.
The exact details of the plan are yet to be announced, including the format of the extra qualifying session. However Vasseur says the scheme enjoys the support of F1’s teams.
So a bit of a "watch this space" but changes are set to be confirmed within a week. What they are suggesting in principle seems an improvement though Qualy for the GP on Sunday seems a bit separated.
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Hold on, I'm probably being thick here, but does that mean they will qualify on Friday and use that qualifying for both the sprint race and the main race? Or FP2 is qualifying for the sprint race and then they will do another qualifying for the main race? Sorry, I'm just struggling to wrap my head around it. It's probably me, I'm struggling with a lot of things todayEverso Biggyballies wrote: ↑1 year ago New Format Proposed for Sprint race weekends.
I know I for one was always very anti the whole Sprint Race concept and in particular the format where the Sprint race sets the qualifying / grid for the GP, and the whole business of a Practice session after qualifying.
Well it seems the format is about to change. Nothing firmed yet but a new concept has been agreed by the teams and the forces that be. It just needs to be ratified and confirmed. I dont think it answers all the issues of the old format but it seems to counter my main worry or the Sprint race results setting the race grid. Those days it seems are numbered.
Sprint race events already / previously featured two practice sessions instead of the usual three, as the extra race took up one of the practice slots.
The proposal seems to suggest that F1 intends to reduce that to a single hour for the first sprint event in Azerbaijan, turning second practice into a dedicated qualifying session for the sprint race later that afternoon. This would mean Friday’s qualifying session sets the starting order for Sunday’s grand prix.
The exact details of the plan are yet to be announced, including the format of the extra qualifying session. However Vasseur says the scheme enjoys the support of F1’s teams.
So a bit of a "watch this space" but changes are set to be confirmed within a week. What they are suggesting in principle seems an improvement though Qualy for the GP on Sunday seems a bit separated.
Friday Qualifying is now used to set the grid for the Sunday (Main) race. Just like qualifying on a normal non Sprint weekend except its on FridayStar wrote: ↑1 year agoHold on, I'm probably being thick here, but does that mean they will qualify on Friday and use that qualifying for both the sprint race and the main race? Or FP2 is qualifying for the sprint race and then they will do another qualifying for the main race? Sorry, I'm just struggling to wrap my head around it. It's probably me, I'm struggling with a lot of things todayEverso Biggyballies wrote: ↑1 year ago New Format Proposed for Sprint race weekends.
I know I for one was always very anti the whole Sprint Race concept and in particular the format where the Sprint race sets the qualifying / grid for the GP, and the whole business of a Practice session after qualifying.
Well it seems the format is about to change. Nothing firmed yet but a new concept has been agreed by the teams and the forces that be. It just needs to be ratified and confirmed. I dont think it answers all the issues of the old format but it seems to counter my main worry or the Sprint race results setting the race grid. Those days it seems are numbered.
Sprint race events already / previously featured two practice sessions instead of the usual three, as the extra race took up one of the practice slots.
The proposal seems to suggest that F1 intends to reduce that to a single hour for the first sprint event in Azerbaijan, turning second practice into a dedicated qualifying session for the sprint race later that afternoon. This would mean Friday’s qualifying session sets the starting order for Sunday’s grand prix.
The exact details of the plan are yet to be announced, including the format of the extra qualifying session. However Vasseur says the scheme enjoys the support of F1’s teams.
So a bit of a "watch this space" but changes are set to be confirmed within a week. What they are suggesting in principle seems an improvement though Qualy for the GP on Sunday seems a bit separated.
"Just scrap the whole thing," he responded when asked if there were any changes that could make it better. "I think it's just important to go back to what we had and make sure every team can fight for the win.
"That's what we have to try and aim for and implement all these kinds of artificial excitement, I would say. I got bored through today's qualifying, to be honest.
"I like to have one particular qualifying where you put everything in it, and that was yesterday, which I of course enjoyed, then you have to do it again today and I'm like 'my god, another qualifying?' I just don't really enjoy that."
Verstappen said the sprint format adds a random element, which he believes devalues the racing.
"I think it's not proper racing, more gambling, I think I'll have more success in Vegas if I go to the casino," he said. "I like racing, I'm a pure racer and I think this is more for the show and of course it is important to have entertainment, but I think if all the cars are closer you create anyway better entertainment than trying to do it like this.
"It feels like you have a football match it's 3-0 for one team and then suddenly you just say let's reset it to 0-0 and go again. I find it a bit unnecessary these kinds of things."
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/to ... e2a01&ei=8Toto Wolff has called on Formula One to act to prevent a recurrence of an uneventful Azerbaijan Grand Prix which he accurately summed up as “boring”. Wolff, the Mercedes team principal, highlighted the difficulty of overtaking in Baku that made for a race that was largely a procession from start to finish.
“There was no overtaking, even with a big pace difference,” he said. “It made it not great entertainment. We have to analyse the weekend with the sprint format, whether there’s positives we can take out.”
The meeting was the first of F1’s new sprint format weekend, with the sprint race itself a similarly lacklustre affair but for Russell’s early skirmish with Verstappen. A fight that only served to highlight how bland Sunday’s GP had been.
“At the end it all comes down to racing,” said Wolff. “It needs the tough battles and I think the highlight you could see on Saturday was George and Max being able to battle it out and on Sunday there was none of that. Even if you were within 0.2 seconds it was very difficult to overtake, nearly impossible to overtake unless the other driver makes a mistake. We need to really look at it, we need to look at how we can avoid just a boring race.”
“It’s about understanding why it was not entertaining ,” he added. “We have two cars that are sailing off into the sunset on merit and then we have a 20-second gap. I wouldn’t know today between Aston Martin and Ferrari and us who is quicker because you’re stuck where you’re stuck and that’s pretty much it. We need to find more data sets in the next races to see how this is going and then we need to adjust.”
Well, it's easy, innit? It was always difficult to overtake, and should be so. "Unless the other driver makes a mistake...", that's the key. Drivers should be able to pile on the pressure until the other driver makes a mistake. But that's almost impossible with the cars always in optimal condition, thanks to fresh tyres every few laps and perfect surveillance from the pits. Make the cars more skittish again: ban pit stops and pits-to-car data transfer, better still all communication. It's not rocket science.MonteCristo wrote: ↑1 year agoToto Wolff: Even if you were within 0.2 seconds it was very difficult to overtake, nearly impossible to overtake unless the other driver makes a mistake. We need to really look at it, we need to look at how we can avoid just a boring race.”
Speaking of... Are they officially still not allowed to be coached? Or did that get lifted?
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-c ... /10495626/Formula 1 is considering the idea of a special ‘Grand Slam’ award for Sprint Races next year in a bid to bring a further element of excitement to race weekends, Motorsport.com can reveal.
F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali has now revealed that one idea being looked at is to introduce a special ‘Grand Slam’ element to sprint weekends – which would be awarded to any driver who takes pole position and victory for both the sprint and main grand prix.
