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Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 13:37 pm
by kals

Bottom post of the previous page:

John wrote:What bugs me about the chase is the fact that contenders can have their chances ruined thanks to crashes caused by non-contenders. You don't see teams eliminated in the regular season having any impact on the Super Bowl.
That's what bugs you?

What bugs me is NASCAR and its fans lauding a system that gives Ryan Newman a realistic shot at a title when he barely registers a reasonable result throughout a season.

But yeah, joking about Newman aside I do agree. Perhaps what NASCAR can add to the format is putting all the chase contenders at the head of the pack at the start of every race plus restart. Yes that doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting caught up in incidents but it ensures the chase pack are fighting themselves to begin with. Also, maybe the chasers can be given a weight break so they are faster that the non-chase pack?

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 13:50 pm
by John
kals wrote:
John wrote:What bugs me about the chase is the fact that contenders can have their chances ruined thanks to crashes caused by non-contenders. You don't see teams eliminated in the regular season having any impact on the Super Bowl.
That's what bugs you?

What bugs me is NASCAR and its fans lauding a system that gives Ryan Newman a realistic shot at a title when he barely registers a reasonable result throughout a season.

But yeah, joking about Newman aside I do agree. Perhaps what NASCAR can add to the format is putting all the chase contenders at the head of the pack at the start of every race plus restart. Yes that doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting caught up in incidents but it ensures the chase pack are fighting themselves to begin with. Also, maybe the chasers can be given a weight break so they are faster that the non-chase pack?
Wasn't the chase created when Kenseth won a title through consistency after only winning one race all year long? Or was it discussed before that as well? I like your ideas. Certainly for restarts in the last half of the race or something like that.

Or, you know, whoever gets the most points over a season wins the title. That could work as well. It's hard to say someone isn't a deserving champion when he has the most points of 40+ drivers after 36 races. I always considered the chase a quick fix to a problem that didn't exist.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 13:52 pm
by kals
Yeah that's right. Kenseth won a small number of races and scored so consistently that the title was decided many races before the close of the year.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 13:56 pm
by John
kals wrote:Yeah that's right. Kenseth won a small number of races and scored so consistently that the title was decided many races before the close of the year.
IIRC he won the second or third race of the year (North Carolina?), drove incredibly consistent on his way to a thoroughly deserving title. He played the game and won. Well done, I'd say.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 16:01 pm
by Ian-S
He won Las Vegas only that year.
There was also a guy in the Xfinity Chase this year who's best finish had been 5th or something similar, had never even been in the top 3, yet other race winners were excluded because of the rules.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 20:40 pm
by LaraCroft2016
Why were there so many empty seats the whole season? maybe people realize the chase is junk??

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 09:42 am
by Ian-S
Better things to do, hotels overpricing themselves around race times etc.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:20 pm
by kals
Ian-S wrote:Better things to do.
Yes like squander their money on 'Make America Great Again' hats.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:27 pm
by Everso Biggyballies
kals wrote:....... 'Make America Great Again' hats.
Is that like a Trump wig?

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 14:02 pm
by kals
Oh Toupee

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 02:43 am
by LaraCroft2016
So many empty seats give the impression people don't care NASCAR anymore :(

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:21 pm
by Cheeveer
It's very hard to care about NASCAR because it's such a shit show nowadays.

Re: NASCAR 2016 - News & Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 00:43 am
by DaleJuniorFan
Monster Energy will become title sponsor of the Cup Series starting in 2017.