Your Favourite Team Colours/Livery/Designs?

[Everso Biggyballies]

Bottom post of the previous page:

I am one of probably only a few who thinks the Gold Leaf Lotus colours were better than the JPS version. Dont get me wrong the JPS is up there as well but the Gold Leaf Team Lotus liveries were just great to me at the time.








Not just in F1 either, the Lotus 47 and 62 looked pretty special. (The Lotus 62 was a prototype of which only two were made... basically a Lotus 47 on steroids, from 1969)



Miles and Muir Lotus 62, BOAC 500 1969

[Everso Biggyballies]

Maybe the Gold Leaf was an Alan Mann Racing link to it as well because I adored the look of their Escorts and prior to that Cortinas, Falcon Sprints etc in Saloon Car Racing. (before they became touring cars). Touring Cars to me used to be Grand Touring! Happy Days.

Going on memory here but I think XOO349F was Frank Gardner's 1968 BSCC winning car.... fitted with an FVA F2 engine! IIRC XOO347F, the sister car , ran a few races with a 'supercharged' FVA fitted. The truth is it wasnt really a supercharger at all, but more an electric fan of some sort blowing air into the induction. It made no difference (or no gain) to performance at all, but with it fitted technically it was a blower and thus with the blower multiplication factor added it put the car into the unlimited (V8) class. It was still capable of running strongly against the V8s and indeed was an outright race winner at suited circuits. What that allowed was for the Escort to 'steal' points from cars in the big class thus enhancing Gardner's chances of victory overall in the lower class Escort..

I seem to remember the regs were changed the following year that put an end to the clever tricks. If I remember right and this did happen as I recall, it means the Brabham Fan Car was not the first Fan controversy in Motor Racing.

**Note to self: Go do some research on blown FVA engines in BSCC to back my aging memory!









Even this 1958 Ford Prefect.... a car build only a decade ago by Alan Mann Racing for them to take to Goodwood.



Maybe I just have always had a red and gold thing going. Even goes to my road cars.... I had a red daily driver a few years ago and it had to have gold alloys!

[Nononsensecapeesh]

Maybe the Gold Leaf was an Alan Mann Racing link to it as well because I adored the look of their Escorts and prior to that Cortinas, Falcon Sprints etc in Saloon Car Racing. (before they became touring cars). Touring Cars to me used to be Grand Touring! Happy Days.

Going on memory here but I think XOO349F was Frank Gardener's 1968 BSCC winning car.... fitted with an FVA F2 engine! IIRC XOO347F, the sister car , ran a few races with a 'supercharged' FVA fitted. The truth is it wasnt really a supercharger at all, but more an electric fan of some sort blowing air into the induction. It made no difference (or no gain) to performance at all, but with it fitted technically it was a blower and thus with the blower multiplication factor added it put the car into the unlimited (V8) class. It was still capable of running strongly against the V8s and indeed was an outright race winner at suited circuits. What that allowed was for the Escort to 'steal' points from cars in the big class thus enhancing Garginer's chances of victory overall in the lower class Escort..

I seem to remember the regs were changed the following year that put an end to the clever tricks. If I remember right and this did happen as I recall, it means the Brabham Fan Car was not the first Fan controversy in Motor Racing.

**Note to self: Go do some research on blown FVA engines in BSCC to back my aging memory!







Even this 1958 Ford Prefect.... a car build only a decade ago by Alan Mann Racing for them to take to Goodwood.



Maybe I just have always had a red and gold thing going. Even goes to my road cars.... I had a red daily driver a few years ago and it had to have gold alloys!

Looks like you just have a passion for red and gold liveries though the Gold Leaf Lotuses do look a sight for sore eyes.

[robbcfc]

Arrows A18, and I'm not even really sure why. It doesn't have a 'fast' looking livery, it just looks cool.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Arrows A18, and I'm not even really sure why. It doesn't have a 'fast' looking livery, it just looks cool.

For me it was the Warsteiner gold livery, particularly the A2 which at the time I liked because it was different. Followed by the Orange and white Ragno livery on the A4 and A5..

I think over the years the Arrows team had some beautiful liveries.


Edit: Their first livery was good too..... in the very early days they had white and gold. I think this pic is Patrese in the 1978 SA GP, their second ever event.



Here is Stommelen at the same event.

[SpanielRacing]

Apologies if I have not read down far enough to see whether someone else has posted this, but the West McLaren Mercedes was a beautiful looking livery. If only West weren’t a cigarette brand, it could still live on to this day. Mind you, the car shape needed to be correct for it. The 1997 McLaren (and the rest of the grid) were ugly cars. 1998 and onwards is when they got better. The MP4/15 & MP4/16 (from 2000 & 2001 respectively) were magnificent, along with the V10 engine, their beautiful wailing engine exhaust underneath the car was one of the best F1 innovations of all time simply because of that evocative sound.

[Michael Ferner]

Well, each to his own, but I was startled when I read your assessment that "the 1997 McLaren (and the rest of the grid) were ugly cars; 1998 and onwards is when they got better" which is not exactly how I remember it!! Perhaps the '97 cars were not exactly pretty, but to my eyes they were the last ones bfeore the "really ugly" period that started with the narrow cars in '98 (and has lasted ever since, imho).

As for the West livery, I never got why people liked it. To my mind, it's neither good nor bad, just average.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Well, each to his own, but I was startled when I read your assessment that "the 1997 McLaren (and the rest of the grid) were ugly cars; 1998 and onwards is when they got better" which is not exactly how I remember it!! Perhaps the '97 cars were not exactly pretty, but to my eyes they were the last ones bfeore the "really ugly" period that started with the narrow cars in '98 (and has lasted ever since, imho).

As for the West livery, I never got why people liked it. To my mind, it's neither good nor bad, just average.

I can only agree.... except I would add to the narrow cars the continued lengthening of them. That lengthening in itself perhaps amplifies the narrowness.

The late nineties I agree was the start of the downward spiral of the 2000's. And dont start me on grooved tyres.

As for the West livery I am sure I have voiced my personal opinion on that in previous pages. It did nothing for me. I was never moved to light up a West ciggie.....
(Gitanes / Gauloise, Marlboro, JPS, Camel, Rothmans, Benson & Hedges, Gold Leaf, even Lucky Strike I cant say the same about them. )

[Nononsensecapeesh]

Motorbase 2023 British Touring Car Championship livery. I think it looks even better than the 2022 version and that was a hard act to follow.

[Michael Ferner]

I know now who I will NOT commission to pick my next wallpaper

[Vassago]

Well, each to his own, but I was startled when I read your assessment that "the 1997 McLaren (and the rest of the grid) were ugly cars; 1998 and onwards is when they got better" which is not exactly how I remember it!! Perhaps the '97 cars were not exactly pretty, but to my eyes they were the last ones bfeore the "really ugly" period that started with the narrow cars in '98 (and has lasted ever since, imho).

As for the West livery, I never got why people liked it. To my mind, it's neither good nor bad, just average.

I can only agree.... except I would add to the narrow cars the continued lengthening of them. That lengthening in itself perhaps amplifies the narrowness.

The late nineties I agree was the start of the downward spiral of the 2000's. And dont start me on grooved tyres.

As for the West livery I am sure I have voiced my personal opinion on that in previous pages. It did nothing for me. I was never moved to light up a West ciggie.....
(Gitanes / Gauloise, Marlboro, JPS, Camel, Rothmans, Benson & Hedges, Gold Leaf, even Lucky Strike I cant say the same about them. )

I never smoked the French cigs since they were always helluva expensive here and basically more popular in the communists days as "acceptable imperialist brand" and JPS was never sold in Poland. Likewise Gold Leaf whom I don't know if that brand still exist. But I've smoked everything else, actually BAT has rebranded Viceroy as Rothmans over here few years ago so I'm into Rothmans right now

And speaking of Viceroy... a TAG Heuer watch worth 200$ for 88$ in 1972?

[Nononsensecapeesh]

There's nothing taxi-ish about a BMW 3 Series and there's especially nothing taxi-ish about the BMW 3 Series that Jake Hill will be driving this year.

Can't help being so passionate about so-called "taxi" racing but each to their own as the old saying goes.

[Vassago]

I panned the Wall Racing livery in the other thread so here is the GruppeM Mercedes-AMG from the same Bathurst 12H

[Nononsensecapeesh]

I panned the Wall Racing livery in the other thread so here is the GruppeM Mercedes-AMG from the same Bathurst 12H

Didn't know Mercedes built and raced ambulances.

[Everso Biggyballies]

I panned the Wall Racing livery in the other thread so here is the GruppeM Mercedes-AMG from the same Bathurst 12H

I will agree with you on this one.... one of the best liveries in the field for sure. Always easy to identify on track, the Mann brand name is very clear and readable so the sponsor is being looked after. The colour combination works really well too.

[Vassago]

Allan Moffat - Camel Filters Ford Falcon @ 1979 Bathurst 1000.