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Re: Österreichring accidents

Post by hollie3sa » 3 months ago

Latest post of the previous page:

Jacob wrote:
3 months ago
PTRACER wrote:
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Jacob wrote:
3 months ago
Hi Paul, thanks.
I was once asked by another member. Is it very much work?


I know, but I thought maybe other members have photos of these accidents.
It's exactly the same amount of work as you're doing now :wave:
Okay. Let`s try it.
Finally :fingers:

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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

The Moser accident.
Attention fatal car wreck
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Description: ??? a marshal was killed
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Roland Moser
Category: Touring Cars
Series: ???
Vehicle: Ford Escort TC
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: ??? (Erzherzog-Johann-Pokal)
Fatal: Yes
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
3 months ago
Jacob wrote:
3 months ago
PTRACER wrote:
3 months ago
Jacob wrote:
3 months ago
Hi Paul, thanks.
I was once asked by another member. Is it very much work?


I know, but I thought maybe other members have photos of these accidents.
It's exactly the same amount of work as you're doing now :wave:
Okay. Let`s try it.
Finally :fingers:
;) I hope this is not to difficult for me.
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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

Sedre wrote:
3 months ago
Antonov wrote:
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Thanks, interesting read.

Despite the fast nature of the track, there were no fatal crashes?
Two driver fatalities: Mark Donohue in 1975 before Austrian GP and local touring racer Hannes Wustinger in 1994. Plus 2 marshals - one killed by Roland Moser in 1970 and one involved in Donohue's crash.

And one motorcycle rider: Hans-Peter Klampfer during practice for round of Austrian Motorcycle Championship in 1993.
I found pictures, but do you have more information?
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Post by Sedre » 3 months ago

Jacob wrote:
3 months ago
Sedre wrote:
3 months ago
Antonov wrote:
3 months ago
Thanks, interesting read.

Despite the fast nature of the track, there were no fatal crashes?
Two driver fatalities: Mark Donohue in 1975 before Austrian GP and local touring racer Hannes Wustinger in 1994. Plus 2 marshals - one killed by Roland Moser in 1970 and one involved in Donohue's crash.

And one motorcycle rider: Hans-Peter Klampfer during practice for round of Austrian Motorcycle Championship in 1993.
I found pictures, but do you have more information?
Mark Donohue and marshal Manfred Schaller:
http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=122
http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=979

Hannes Wustinger:
http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=956

Marshal killed in 1970:
http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... ct&n=12224

Hans-Peter Klampfer:
http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ms&n=9878

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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

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Description: This Porsche spun out at the corner before the Raiffeisenhügel.
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Ennio Bonomelli/ Fiorenzo Genta
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 911 S
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description: The Le Mans-winning Salzburg Porsche is taped at the front after it suffered an oil leak.
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Vic Elford/Richard Attwood
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 917 K #023
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at; LAT
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Description: The throttle stuck open and Facetti ended up in a field, after piruetting through the fences.
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Carlo Facetti
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Alfa Romeo T33/3
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description: The Chevron of Chuck Graeminger ended up in the fences and had to retire from the race.
Year: 1970
Driver(s): Charles Graemiger/Richard Vogel
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Chevron B8
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

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Description: Oliver suffered a brake failure at the Bosch curve during practice.
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Jackie Oliver
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula 1
Vehicle: McLaren M19/A #1
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
Tags: Practice/Qualifying
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Description: Jackie Stewart lost a wheel and had to retire on lap 36. The short stub axle had broken
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Jackie Stewart
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula 1
Vehicle: Tyrrell 003
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at; LAT
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Description: (7) and (43) collide
Year: 1971
Driver(s):
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula Vee
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description:
Year: 1971
Driver(s):
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula Vee
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description:
Year: 1971
Driver(s):
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula Vee
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description:
Year: 1971
Driver(s):
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula Vee
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description:
Year: 1971
Driver(s):
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula Vee
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at

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Description:
Year: 1971
Driver(s):
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula Vee
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at



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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

The 1000km race in 1971 was not a good one for Ferrari

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(I like the face of the the mechanic. Looks like he found out how much work is needed to fix it.)

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Description: Jacky Ickx built up a strong lead, but his mate Regazzoni lost it somehow. When he was overtaken by eventuel race winner Pedro Rodriguez he tried to regain the 1st position. At the farest corner of the circuit, the Dr. Tiroch-corner, he lost control of the 3L-sports car and crashed heavily into the armcco barriers. Regga was unhurt, but the car really wrecked.
Possibly it happened due to a suspension failure. The accident happened on lap 148 of 170.
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Clay Regazzoni
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sporscar Championship
Vehicle: Ferrari 312PB #0878
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at; Rainer W. Schlegelmilch/LAT


The car had also earlier damage as this photo proofes:
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Description: Müller was in a fierce fight with the Porsche of Marko and Siffert when suddenly his left front suspension broke and the Ferrari went sharp left. Unfortunately he went right into the path of the Strähle-Porsche of Bauer/Pucci. Both cars retired on the spot.
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Herbert Müller; Roland Bauer/Giulio Pucci
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Ferrari 512M #1044; Porsche 911S
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: Rainer W. Schlegelmilch/LAT
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Description: Juncadella went off and flipped his Ferrari. He walked away from this shunt and also the car was raced again.
Driver(s): Jose Juncadella
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Ferrari 512M #1002
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at; Autosprint; Revs Institute
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Description: This Porsche was crashed heavily
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Klaus Utz/Rolf Göring
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 911 S
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at

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Does doesn`t look like photos of the accident. I see no damage

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Description: A tire burst in the Dr. Tiroch-corner and Larrousse spun into the the barriers. The damage at the rear end was too much to continue. He made it back to the pits but retired there.
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Gerard Larrousse
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 917 K #030
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at; Revs Institute
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Description: Practice spin for a John Wyer Porsche which was driven by Derek Bell/Richard Attwood/Pedro Rodriguez during practice.
Year: 1971
Driver(s): Derek Bell/Richard Attwood/Pedro Rodriguez
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 917 K #016
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
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Description: Mola/Berutto retired with wheel problems.
Year: 1969
Driver(s): Franco Berutto/Angelo Mola
Category: Sportscars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 906
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at

From the same event. I don`t know which driver. But with a look at the wrecks I am going to say it's Göring
http://motorsportarchiv.at/cache/Formel ... 33_800.jpg
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Post by hollie3sa » 3 months ago

Awesome work you're doing there, absolutely exemplary!


Just one tiny thing: Would you add warnings to the Moser accident please? People should be aware that it was a fatal accident. Apart from that, keep up your work!

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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
3 months ago
Awesome work you're doing there, absolutely exemplary!


Just one tiny thing: Would you add warnings to the Moser accident please? People should be aware that it was a fatal accident. Apart from that, keep up your work!
Okay, I thought this is not nessary, because no dead or injured people are in it and the car is not too much damaged.
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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

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Description: Pescarolo wrecked his Politoys-March in first practice. He did not start.
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Henri Pescarolo
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula 1
Vehicle: March 721 #3
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit:
Tags: Practice/Qualifying
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Description: Spin for Hailwood
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Mike Hailwood
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula 1
Vehicle: Surtees TS9 B
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at, McKlein
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Description: Gethin had a damaged front wing during the race.
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Peter Gethin
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula 1
Vehicle: BRM P160
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: LAT
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Description: Spin for Beuttler during first practice. He damaged the rear of his yellow March.
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Mike Beuttler
Category: Open Wheelers
Series: Formula 1
Vehicle: March 721
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Austrian Grand Prix
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at
Tags: Practice/Qualifying
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Post by Jacob » 3 months ago

Not a racing incident, but related

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Description: Even before practice begun, Regazzoni injured himself in the paddock while playing football. He broke his left wrist and could not start. Now Redman partnered Ickx. Regga also missed the French and the British GP.
Playing football was Regazzoni's fitness program.
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Clay Regazzoni
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle:
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: Werner Eisele


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Description: Spin for Merzario. He and Munari still finished 4th.
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Arturo Merzario
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Ferrari 312PB
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: Rallye Racing; motorsportarchiv.at; Revs Institute
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Description: Marko cut across Bueno while lapping. The Porsche spun off into the grassy area and was out of the race. Marko said that he did not touch Bueno, but somehow he had the paintwork of the Porsche on his Ferrari.
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Luís Pereira Bueno; Helmut Marko
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Porsche 908/02 K #021; Ferrari 312 PB
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: Revs Institute
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Description: DNF due to an accident
Year: 1972
Driver(s): Hanno Maurer-Stroh/Heinz Derflinger
Category: Sports cars
Series: World Sportscar Championship
Vehicle: Lola T212
Country: Austria
Circuit: Österreichring
Event: Zeltweg 1000km
Fatal: No
Photo Credit: motorsportarchiv.at


(I think Maurer-Stroh was the driver who crashed, because according to racingsportscars.com his next race was in 1974. So he may had to recover from this one
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Post by sadsac » 2 months ago

Here is another one of Jackie Srewart 1972 Jacob
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Post by sadsac » 2 months ago

Jochen Mass 1980
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F1 1982 Osterreichring Riccardo Patrese
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F1 1985 Osterreichring Andrea De Cesaris
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F1 1987 Osterreichring Pileup

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F1 1987 Osterreichring Stefan Johansson

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Post by Jacob » 1 month ago

Some Formula Vee & Formula Super VW crashes from 1973

#3 & #?
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#2, Josef Kaufmann, Horag Has 5
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#37
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Lorenzo Sassi, Delta Mk2
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#51, Ron Fedele, MRE
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