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Bottom post of the previous page:

Both Phoenix and Milwaukee should be on the calendar. I'll give Portland the benefit of the doubt. I've never been a fan nor ever understood the hype the circuit receives, yet like you said it is better than some nondescript street course.
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I don't get why they end the season so early. Surely adding Milwaukee and/or Cleveland wouldn't result in a "cramped" calendar?

Is Burke Lakefront Airport still in use? Is it even doable to go back there?
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NFL season starts in September. Baseball playoffs in October. No way IndyCar gets around that.
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Vassago wrote: 5 years ago NFL season starts in September. Baseball playoffs in October. No way IndyCar gets around that.
Perfect time to place a race in Cleveland. The Browns stink, The Indians stink, and when LeBron leaves this summer they can return to racing at the Airport again. ;)

I get that the sports market might be somewhat saturated. But are they really fighting over the same audience?
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Indy open test times:
Pos No Name FTime Diff Gap Laps FSpeed Engine Team
1 98 Marco Andretti 40.179 --.---- --.---- 12 223.997 Honda Andretti Herta Autosport
2 30 Takuma Sato 40.294 0.1148 0.1148 30 223.359 Honda Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing
3 9 Scott Dixon 40.323 0.1437 0.0289 20 223.199 Honda Chip Ganassi Racing Teams
4 88 Gabby Chaves 40.388 0.2089 0.0652 31 222.838 Chevy Harding Racing
5 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay 40.408 0.2292 0.0203 14 222.727 Honda Andretti Autosport
6 15 Graham Rahal 40.420 0.2407 0.0115 17 222.663 Honda Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing
7 20 Ed Carpenter 40.504 0.3244 0.0837 24 222.203 Chevy Ed Carpenter Racing
8 10 Ed Jones 40.539 0.3599 0.0355 29 222.008 Honda Chip Ganassi Racing Teams
9 5 James Hinchcliffe 40.602 0.4225 0.0626 29 221.666 Honda Schmidt Peterson Motorsports
10 22 Simon Pagenaud 40.648 0.4692 0.0467 32 221.411 Chevy Team Penske
11 18 Sebastien Bourdais 40.678 0.4988 0.0296 27 221.250 Honda Dale Coyne Racing
12 27 Alexander Rossi 40.682 0.5026 0.0038 26 221.230 Honda Andretti Autosport
13 14 Tony Kanaan 40.739 0.5598 0.0572 9 220.919 Chevy AJ Foyt Enterprises
14 21 Spencer Pigot 40.740 0.5606 0.0008 28 220.915 Chevy Ed Carpenter Racing
15 3 Helio Castroneves 40.770 0.5914 0.0308 35 220.748 Chevy Team Penske
16 60 Jack Harvey 40.800 0.6208 0.0294 32 220.589 Honda Meyer Shank Racing
17 26 Zach Veach 40.836 0.6566 0.0358 15 220.395 Honda Andretti Autosport
18 1 Josef Newgarden 40.838 0.6588 0.0022 36 220.384 Chevy Team Penske
19 12 Will Power 40.871 0.6916 0.0328 39 220.207 Chevy Team Penske
20 59 Max Chilton 41.205 1.0257 0.3341 24 218.421 Chevy Carlin
21 23 Charlie Kimball 41.241 1.0622 0.0365 27 218.228 Chevy Carlin
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Indycar's totally-better-than-halo screen test at Indy:
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How much slower was he with the screen?
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-20mph slower than the rest if the video is to be believed. It's a question of how much boost Newgarden run compared to the rest of the field
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Ian-S wrote: 5 years ago How much slower was he with the screen?
Miller says he did a 224mph lap, so not slower at all: http://racer.com/2018/05/01/frye-please ... reen-test/
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See the end of the article:
IndyCar deciding on new chassis timeline
http://racer.com/2018/05/01/indycar-dec ... -timeline/

The Verizon IndyCar Series and its team owners will gather this summer and vote on whether a replacement for the Dallara DW12 chassis will happen in 2021 or 2022. RACER has learned the existing plan to roll out a new car to start the 2021 season has been paused as the possibility of extending the DW12’s lifespan through 2021 is evaluated.

Beyond selecting 2021 or 2022 to bring a new chassis online, the group is also expected to decide on whether the new car will be produced by a single constructor like Dallara, or if multiple chassis manufacturers will be welcomed into the series.

On the topic of dates, it’s believed the costs associated with moving to the new 2021 engine have reopened the subject of whether keeping the DW12 through 2021 would ease the financial burden on the paddock. With IndyCar asking Chevy, Honda, and any new engine suppliers to hit a target of 900hp – a 20 percent hike from the 750hp or so in play this season – an increase in the annual lease pricing could also be part of the 2021 engine package.

To ensure both installation options exist, IndyCar’s engine manufacturers have been told the 2021 motors must use the same exact chassis mounting locations found on the current 2.2-liter powerplants. If the series keeps the DW12 for 2021, the new motors would plug into the old chassis without modifications. And if a new chassis is employed in 2021, part of its design requirements will be to carry over the DW12’s engine attachment points.

With this approach, the 2012-2020 engines and 2021 engines will easily fit in the DW12 and whatever the new chassis is called.

Another interesting twist could involve the reintroduction of multiple chassis suppliers to IndyCar. Of the other possibilities in play, if IndyCar finds itself with the same two engine manufacturers when the new chassis formula is finalized, the odds of sticking with a spec supplier are said to be high.

If a third manufacturer joins Chevy and Honda beforehand, inviting multiple chassis suppliers to participate in the 2021/2022 production plan could be embraced. It’s understood the approach taken by the FIA World Endurance Championship with its LMP2 formula in 2017 has also piqued IndyCar’s interest.

With the WEC’s new P2 formula, multiple chassis suppliers were nominated to build cars using strict design guidelines established by the series. Of the four chosen firms, Dallara and a pair of French companies – Ligier and ORECA – have found success and sold quite a few cars that look slightly different and possess unique performance traits.

Whether the WEC P2 design and construction model would be adopted by IndyCar is unknown, but an interest in using more than one chassis supplier if three engine manufacturers are involved is good news for those who are keen to see the spec chassis formula disappear.
Fingers crossed on this. Let's hope for a third engine maker!

Moar power is also goodly.
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MonteCristo wrote: 5 years ago
Moar power is also goodly.
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Multiple chassis manufacturers? Yes!
Multiple engine suppliers? Yes!
More power? Fuck yes!
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kals wrote: 5 years ago Multiple chassis manufacturers? Yes!
Multiple engine suppliers? Yes!
More power? Fuck yes!
Fingers bone-breakingly tightly crossed.

But these sorts of noises have been made before. Hopefully a FIAT, VW or Ford steps up, and can simply badge a Cosworth.
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kals wrote: 5 years ago Multiple chassis manufacturers? Yes!
I hope they can govern the rules closely enough, to allow for multiple chassis manufacturers without turning it into an all-out aero-war which would be detrimental to the actual racing.
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A couple snippets of news...

Zachary Claman De Melo (the DCR alternate driver) will replace the injured Emers---Christi---Pietro Fittipaldi for the I500.

In good news, Alfonso Celis Jr will drive for Juncos Racing at Road America. The 21 year old Mexican is a former development driver for Force India in F1, and is currently racing for Juncos in Indy Lights. Juncos Racing isn't contesting the entire series this year, and this is an additional race. Hurrah!
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MonteCristo wrote: 5 years ago A couple snippets of news...

Zachary Claman De Melo (the DCR alternate driver) will replace the injured Emers---Christi---Pietro Fittipaldi for the I500.
No, only the Indy Grand Prix, which is this weekend.
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