Well, to put it short. Tags was obviously furious with Paul and looked him up in the trackside. Upon finding him Tags grabbed him by the overalls and demanded explanation(insert loads of f-words here), PT didn't answer and Tags started to walk towards the pits, followed by Paul. After a few moments Tags turned away and came back to face Paul again, this time Paul did respond and a few words Tracy punched Tags on the helmet. Not very smart, considering that Tags was wearing his helmet unlike himself. The rest, as they say, is history.
Tracy had a cut in his forehead as a result, didn't he?
Yep, he has. A bit blood or so runs down his face but that seem to be all and thank "whoever" it was just a minor fight. Sure, 100% Tracy's fault but what Tag has done doesn't makes him smarter. I bet they'll be fined for that!
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Ok, Im trying to figure out what they said to each other (Tag and PT)
Tag: What the fuck? (Repeats this some times)
PT: Ive gotta clear you.
Tag: You destroyed my car, I have no car!
PT: Stop it.
Tag: I have no cars, I have no fucking cars left, I have no cars left!
(They now starts to walk down the garage area again, PT behind Tag.)
Tag: You could have left me with one of my fucking cars! (He has now faced PT again.)
And then the sounds from the engines drown their words and they start to wrestle...
Am I correct with this?
Observe: The 'PT' in this situation is the famous canadian racing driver Paul Tracy, not our beloved forum administrator.
EDIT: He looks so sad in this photo:
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I never expected to see running blood from Paul Tracy's face after such an arguement. I also never expected that someone is so brainfucked to start a fight against PT.
Paul Tracy is/was one of the best talented drivers out there but 1 Champ Car title in nearly 17 years is definetively too less.
All in all it's another wasted season for PT. He has proved and will proved, untill he dies, that he can't learn from his mistakes. He's pure racing, he breathes racing, Paul Tracy means racing. On the other hand he slowly destroys his reputation, in case he ever had one.
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Heated words and fists flew at San Jose today, as a number of drivers made it known in various ways they were decidedly un-impressed with some of their competitors’ on-track etiquette.
The main event featured Alex Tagliani and Paul Tracy, who exchanged blows after their coming-together on Lap 52. Running second at the time, Tracy went down the escape road in Turn Six, did a bootleg turn and roared back out onto the track into the path of Tagliani, who was powerless to avoid the wayward Forsythe Lola. Both cars suffered terminal damage, with Tracy abandoning his car on the spot and walking back to pit lane. Tagliani managed to drive his car to the pits, this despite the fact that its tub was severely damaged, bringing to eight the number of wrecked monocoques this season for Team Australia and leaving the team with but one serviceable chassis (for Will Power) as it prepares for the Denver race weekend in 11 days time.
After parking his car in the Team Australia pit, Tagliani -- still wearing his helmet -- stalked off to confront Tracy as his fellow Canadian returned to the pits on foot. He grabbed Tracy’s uniform and screamed, “What the f---! What the f--- are you doing! I have no cars! I have no cars left!”
Although Tracy apologized, Tagliani didn’t want to hear it and continued his verbal assault. The two parted, briefly, but when Tagliani renewed his verbal barrage, words turned to blows and the pair scuffled before cooler heads prevailed and they were separated by onlookers.
“I came back to the pits and he kept confronting me, he kept grabbing me and I told him to stop grabbing me.” said Tracy. “And he kept grabbing me and I kept telling him to stop. Then he walked away and came back and grabbed me again and that was it. I had to defend myself.”
As Tagliani later explained, it wasn’t just the wrecked car that set him off.
“I had just run a lap at 50.8 and Bourdais was running 50.6s at the time,” he said. “Our car was working so well. We started on (standard) Bridgestones, then switched to reds (alternates) at the first pit stop and we had a fresh set of reds for the last stint. I was ahead of da Matta, the car was working so well that I was getting great fuel mileage, which is why we beat people on our pit stop . . . For sure we’d have been on the podium and that would have put us in fourth in points. Now we’re 11th and we have another wrecked car.
“The thing is, Tracy would’ve hit the wall on the inside of the corner if he hadn’t hit me. He came out of the escape road doing a million miles an hour with marbles and crap on his tires . . . it was stupid.”
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Even before the race end, I'd stepped away to sit down at my computer and send CART an email on my thoughts. The website took forever to load. After penning my note, their email service conveniently went US.
Here is essentially the message I was going to leave them.
'Noting the debacle at San Jose today, if CART does not suspend Paul Tracy for the balance of the 2006 season, I shall never again attend or watch another CART event on television.'
I've seen Tracy drive for 20 years and it's high time to get this lunatic off the track.
Manfred Cubenoggin wrote:Noting the debacle at San Jose today, if CART does not suspend Paul Tracy for the balance of the 2006 season, I shall never again attend or watch another CART event on television.'
I've seen Tracy drive for 20 years and it's high time to get this lunatic off the track.
Tracy has had his fair share of dumb moves, but what about cocky Bourdais. All the incidents he had with Paul, driving him off the road or crashing him or damaging him. Or for instance that moment with the Ozzy car at Edmonton. In the couple of years Sebastien is in CCWS he's had a lot more of incidents than Tracy ever had. That guy is a fucking joke.
Tracy and Tag are just getting sick of this, just look at all the 06 moments they had, for instance the Long Beach start crash for Tracy and the horrific crash for Tag at Houston. Emotions ran high at San Jose and if the CCWS officials were actually doing there job this shouldn't have happened. It's a shame. I just hope they will not get fined; they should have a good talk and understand that they're not enemies.
Manfred Cubenoggin wrote:Noting the debacle at San Jose today, if CART does not suspend Paul Tracy for the balance of the 2006 season, I shall never again attend or watch another CART event on television.'
I've seen Tracy drive for 20 years and it's high time to get this lunatic off the track.
Tracy has had his fair share of dumb moves, but what about cocky Bourdais. All the incidents he had with Paul, driving him off the road or crashing him or damaging him. Or for instance that moment with the Ozzy car at Edmonton. In the couple of years Sebastien is in CCWS he's had a lot more of incidents than Tracy ever had. That guy is a fucking joke.
Tracy and Tag are just getting sick of this, just look at all the 06 moments they had, for instance the Long Beach start crash for Tracy and the horrific crash for Tag at Houston. Emotions ran high at San Jose and if the CCWS officials were actually doing there job this shouldn't have happened. It's a shame. I just hope they will not get fined; they should have a good talk and understand that they're not enemies.
Is Bourdais the enemy?
I havent followd ChampCar so closely since 2003 when many of the big teams fled to the IRL, but I have seen Toronto last year when he drove over PT's front wing and in Las Vegas when he punted Tracy into the outside wall. Is there any more infamous incident that Bourdais have caused since he begun in CCWS in '03?
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"Yes" and "No". Tracy did major faults during the last 3 years and when I say faults I mean real faults. For example, last years Houston race (I think) when he arrived a insignificant right hander but went straight into the wall.
On the other hand, Paul "earned" a lot of trouble because he had more DNF's than DF's also triggered by Sebastien. You mentioned it, Las Vegas and Toronto are good examples. The overheated Sebastien thought he could "play" with Paul and "kicked" him out. I won't say that Sebastien did that on purpose but without these incidents, Tracy would have had a better chance to win + his reputation wouldn't be that bad.
It's actually a shame to see Pauls career going down this way. I know I mentioned it thousand times but he's so talented and adorned with skill but could not get the Big Deal out of it.
@HC: I agree on the fact that the officals should have seperated both. A clever tactic and they had both cooled down before it came to the fight.
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Sorry, I've only just read properly what happened. Sounds like a crazy situation, with Paul not being able to control himself, neither on or off the track. Is there a video of the accident and the 'fight'?
PTRACER wrote:Sorry, I've only just read properly what happened. Sounds like a crazy situation, with Paul not being able to control himself, neither on or off the track. Is there a video of the accident and the 'fight'?
I have the fight, but I have yet to see the crash. I think i downloaded it at TBK, look there. If youre not a TBK-member, I could always upload later.
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Cheeveer wrote:I havent followd ChampCar so closely since 2003 when many of the big teams fled to the IRL, but I have seen Toronto last year when he drove over PT's front wing and in Las Vegas when he punted Tracy into the outside wall. Is there any more infamous incident that Bourdais have caused since he begun in CCWS in '03?
You can add Mexico 2005 and 2006 to the list.
ASH wrote:"Yes" and "No". Tracy did major faults during the last 3 years and when I say faults I mean real faults. For example, last years Houston race (I think) when he arrived a insignificant right hander but went straight into the wall.
There wasn't a Houston race last year, that was Denver.
Manfred Cubenoggin wrote:Yea, I was watching this horror show.
Even before the race end, I'd stepped away to sit down at my computer and send CART an email on my thoughts. The website took forever to load. After penning my note, their email service conveniently went US.
Here is essentially the message I was going to leave them.
'Noting the debacle at San Jose today, if CART does not suspend Paul Tracy for the balance of the 2006 season, I shall never again attend or watch another CART event on television.'
I've seen Tracy drive for 20 years and it's high time to get this lunatic off the track.
Well, he did get the hardest punishment from weekends actions:
Paul Tracy (#3 Indeck Ford-Cosworth/Lola/Bridgestone) will be placed on probation for the next three races and will forfeit seven (7) championship points for violation of Champ Car Rule 6.29 concerning unjustifiable risk. Tracy will also be fined an undisclosed amount for violation of Champ Car Rule 2.6 regarding conduct, specifically 'Participants engaged in any event....must refrain from intentional physical contact with any participant, inappropriate or profane language...and unsportsmanlike behavior.'
Alex Tagliani (#15 Aussie Vineyards Ford-Cosworth/Lola/Bridgestone) will be fined an undisclosed amount for violation of Champ Car Rule 2.6 regarding conduct, specifically 'Participants engaged in any event....must refrain from intentional physical contact with any participant, inappropriate or profane language...and unsportsmanlike behavior.'
Katherine Legge (#20 Gulfstream/Bell Micro Ford-Cosworth/Lola/Bridgestone) will be placed on probation for the next three races for on-track misconduct.
What did Katherine Legge do?
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