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Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 21:09 pm
by Vassago

Latest post of the previous page:

Well, I used to think O'Halloran would move up quickly but then he broke his leg at Imola as a wildcard and I have no idea if he ever recovers from this setback. Also what was the year that C.Iddon looked like he will run away with the BSB title but thanks to the stupid playoffs he didn't? I mean these playoffs are even worse than Chase in NASCAR. What is the damn point of it anyway? :angry:

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 18:05 pm
by Cheeveer
Last two laps at Silverstone: :jaw:

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 18:59 pm
by kals
Cheeveer wrote:
3 weeks ago
Last two laps at Silverstone: :jaw:
:agreepost:

Great racing.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 19:27 pm
by Cheeveer
While COTA was a gifted to him, this was really Rins' breakthrough, just like Vinales win here 3 years ago. Suzuki needs to keep hold of this one if they want to be a legit threat to Honda and Ducati.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 20:07 pm
by SB83
Couldn't help but notice Rins leaned into the corners a lot less than Marquez for most of the race. I'd read about Dovi apparently doing that in Austria to have more at the end which enabled him to dive under Marquez at the end and have grip to pull it off. Rins did the same thing today.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 20:10 pm
by John
I really enjoyed the whole race, seeing Rins and MM size each other up, taking jabs and looking at each other before capping it up with two fantastic and frantic final laps. Great stuff.

Also glad that Dovi is OK.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 21:27 pm
by Cheeveer
SB83 wrote:
3 weeks ago
Couldn't help but notice Rins leaned into the corners a lot less than Marquez for most of the race. I'd read about Dovi apparently doing that in Austria to have more at the end which enabled him to dive under Marquez at the end and have grip to pull it off. Rins did the same thing today.
Noticed that too, Rins looked way more "old school", like Doohan or Schwantz rode, than anyone else I've seen lately.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:29 am
by John
Cheeveer wrote:
3 weeks ago
SB83 wrote:
3 weeks ago
Couldn't help but notice Rins leaned into the corners a lot less than Marquez for most of the race. I'd read about Dovi apparently doing that in Austria to have more at the end which enabled him to dive under Marquez at the end and have grip to pull it off. Rins did the same thing today.
Noticed that too, Rins looked way more "old school", like Doohan or Schwantz rode, than anyone else I've seen lately.
Sylvain Guintoli compared Rins with Schwantz as well earlier this season. I love watching Rins ride a bike, it looks almost sublime, unlike the aggressive hell-bent-for-leather style of Marquez. Rins spoke a bit about his riding style here: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... e-lex-rins

Also, unbelievable that it wasn't Rins who high-sided in T1 on L1.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 14:06 pm
by kals
Anyone else notice how anonymous Danilo Petrucci has been since his podium at Catalunya? Yesterday he was battling with a KTM and the Aprilia pair. That doesn’t seem right.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 15:04 pm
by Vassago
Yeah, it seems like Petrucci has completely lost the fire once he signed the 2020 deal. It was said he's devastated after the death of Luca Semprini before the Brno race and he had a bad weekend there but Austria & Silverstone just continue the trend for whatever reason.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 15:30 pm
by Vassago
Draft calendar for 2020 season is out and like reported before, Sachsenring moves to one week before Dutch TT with the new Finnish round taking Sachsenring's old spot. Big move is Thailand moving to March as the second round of the season and Aragon pushed back to October to take Thailand's old spot.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 06:48 am
by SB83
Moving Thailand up so much would help with temperatures I assume.If it's anything like here in India, March is atl least bearable humidity and heat-wise compared to the entire rest of the year until around December.
John wrote:
2 weeks ago
Cheeveer wrote:
3 weeks ago
SB83 wrote:
3 weeks ago
Couldn't help but notice Rins leaned into the corners a lot less than Marquez for most of the race. I'd read about Dovi apparently doing that in Austria to have more at the end which enabled him to dive under Marquez at the end and have grip to pull it off. Rins did the same thing today.
Noticed that too, Rins looked way more "old school", like Doohan or Schwantz rode, than anyone else I've seen lately.
Sylvain Guintoli compared Rins with Schwantz as well earlier this season. I love watching Rins ride a bike, it looks almost sublime, unlike the aggressive hell-bent-for-leather style of Marquez. Rins spoke a bit about his riding style here: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... e-lex-rins
Nice, I love reading these riding style pieces. Then trying to apply them in Ride 3. :tongue:

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 02:54 am
by Vassago
Some moves in Moto2 for 2020:

Dalla Porta to Italtrans as Bastianini's teammate has been confirmed and Aron Canet will join Jake Dixon at Angel Nieto's team replacing the lacklustre Cardelus.

Sam Lowes will become Alex Marquez's teammate at Estrella Galicia and this could really turn ugly for Lowes who has done next to nothing the past two seasons (other than crash out a lot).

Xavi Vierge moves to Petronas Sprint Racing which expands to two bikes (the second one probably for K.I.Pawi again).

Marcos Ramirez moves up from Moto3 and takes Lecuona's place in American Racing. (Lecuona will replace B.Binder at Ajo Motorsport like reported few weeks ago already).

Jesko Raffin will replace Steven Odendaal at NTS.

The grid will be reduced to 28 bikes next year and Kiefer Racing has been denied a slot which means they're out of business in GP racing.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:14 am
by kals
What’s interesting about this article is not what Puig says about Lorenzo but what he says about Zarco...
Honda MotoGP team boss Alberto Puig believes Jorge Lorenzo's struggles with the Japanese marque are not down to technique, but a lack of "courage and willingness".

Lorenzo has endured a nightmare first campaign on the RC213V after two seasons as a works Ducati rider, having not scored a top 10 finish this year.

He has also missed four races due to injury, and during his layoff it emerged that Ducati had sounded out the three-time MotoGP champion about a potential return to its fold with the Pramac squad.

In the end Lorenzo decided to honour his two-year deal with Honda, but there still remains a possibility that the Spaniard could walk away at the end of 2019.

"For Jorge it's like starting all over again, but he has to want it, be eager and motivated," Puig told the official MotoGP podcast.

"He has to be willing to take risks and accept that in this sport you can hurt yourself. It's like someone jumping onto the [boxing] ring.

"I don't think Lorenzo's problem is the technique, but courage and willingness.

"We would love to see him going as fast as he was with Yamaha, it would be a dream."



Puig added that Honda has not considered who could replace Lorenzo in the event that the Spaniard does opt to walk away from his contract at the end of the year.

"If he decided to break the contract for the second year, something we don't want, right now Honda is not ready to replace him," he said.

"We haven't thought of any replacements.

"But if that were to be the case, we'd react and we would start looking for an option, even if it's not a wonderful one."

Johann Zarco is a free agent for 2020, having decided to terminate his two-year agreement with KTM one year early, but Puig downplayed the prospect of signing a rider who already rejected the chance to partner Marc Marquez this season.

"We offered the bike to Zarco [for 2019] and he turned it down," said Puig.

"After all that, he came over, apologised and fired his agent [Laurent Fellon] for not having informed me of anything.

"In that sense, he was a gentleman and everything is clear between us. But we are not thinking about him, because our rider is Lorenzo."

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:48 am
by Vassago
I used to think Zarco didn't know there was a Honda contract that's why he accepted the KTM deal. You can't turn something down if you don't know it even exists?

Btw, even if the Honda bike is tailor-made for Marquez, you can't expect anyone to step in and deliver the big results from the onset. And Lorenzo's style makes him like the worst choice for that bike.

Someone like Pol Espargaro would be a good choice for Repsol Honda but it's unlikely KTM lets him go anytime soon.

Re: 2019 banter & Silly season thread for MotoGP, Moto2 and Moto3

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 14:04 pm
by kals
Fellon was Zarco's friend and mentor, trusted with putting the rider on the best path for his career while Zarco did what he needed to do on the track. Fellon's actions after signing Zarco to KTM destroyed both of their credibility and also their relationship. Maybe Zarco should have had more knowledge and control over what his manager was doing, yet on the surface it looks like he was a somewhat innocent victim.

As for the second Honda. Cal Crutchlow would be a suitable temporary candidate. Pol is signed long term to KTM and is doing well. Aleix on the other hand is getting impatient with Aprilia, so perhaps an option for Honda longer term?