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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 10 months ago

Latest post of the previous page:

Ducati launch new 2019 Mission Winnow livery.

No dramatic changes really, although the colours are more red with minimal white being the change. Other than the bikes now featuring the Phillip Morris Mission Winnow initiative, as with Ferrari in F1 last year.

As such, the team’s official name is now ‘Mission Winnow Ducati Team’. It also sports signage from parent company Audi.

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Post by kals » 10 months ago

Seriously though, WTF does ‘Mission Winnow’ even mean?

And is it pronounced ‘Win Now’ or like ‘minnow’?

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Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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Ducati launch new 2019 Mission Winnow livery.

No dramatic changes really, although the colours are more red with minimal white being the change. Other than the bikes now featuring the Phillip Morris Mission Winnow initiative, as with Ferrari in F1 last year.

As such, the team’s official name is now ‘Mission Winnow Ducati Team’. It also sports signage from parent company Audi.

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Looks like Audi didn't manage to get rid of Ducati then, which was rumoured last summer.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 10 months ago

An article from Dec 2017, at the time when it was lookingg like Ducati would be sold.

Apparently some cost reduction at Ducati and leeway from the Audi Porsche VW Group has made it unnecessary to sell the brand......
Audi CEO drops plan to sell motorcycle brand Ducati
Andreas Cremer
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INGOLSTADT, Germany (Reuters) - Germany’s Audi (NSUG.DE) has abandoned plans to sell its Italian motorcycle brand Ducati, its chief executive Rupert Stadler said, in a sign of confidence that the carmaker expects to be able to carry the costs of its transformation.

The logo of Italian motorcycle manufacturer Ducati is seen in Dietlikon, Switzerland October 11, 2016. REUTERS/Arnd Wiegmann
Steps to reduce costs by 10 billion euros ($11.8 billion), cut red tape and deepen ties with fellow Volkswagen-owned (VOWG_p.DE) brand Porsche are “gradually increasing our financial and organizational leeway for the strategic realignment,” chief executive Rupert Stadler told reporters.

There is therefore no economic need to sell Ducati, Stadler said. Volkswagen asked banks to evaluate options for Ducati and transmissions maker Renk earlier this year as seeks to become more nimble in its shift towards electric and self-driving cars following its diesel emissions cheating scandal.

“I can assure you that Ducati belongs to the Audi family,” said Stadler. “Ducati is the perfect implementation of our premium philosophy in the world of motorbikes.”

The plans had already stalled in the summer when VW’s powerful labor unions, backed by the controlling Porsche-Piech families, opposed the logic and need for asset sales given the group’s financial resilience.

Investors and potential Ducati buyers, however, expect that VW could change its mind again and eventually opt to sell the asset which they say has least strategic importance to VW.

“For Volkswagen’s powerful works council it could be an easy bargaining chip they could offer to push through something completely different,” a person close to the matter said.

Investors have long favored divestments to simplify VW’s group structure and to strengthen its management’s ability to push through structural changes against the unions’ wishes.

Audi, which owns Ducati and Italian supercar maker Lamborghini, last month reported higher operating profit and revenue for the first nine months, helped by growing auto demand in the higher-margin western European and U.S. markets.

While pushing the costly shift to zero-emissions and autonomous technologies, holding on to the profitable Ducati division and the lucrative Lamborghini brand has become more important, Stadler said.

“Looking after a premium bouquet is as difficult as the work of a gardener,” Stadler said. “Therefore I am pleased with every new flower, with every promising new branch,” he added, predicting Lamborghini’s sales would double on the back of its new sport-utility vehicle.

Separately, Stadler said Audi will spend nearly half a billion euros over the next eight years on training staff for the digital age, with steps to develop as well as hire experts such as automotive app-designers and car robotics specialists.

To rein in costs, Audi wants to keep headcount stable, at least over the next 2-3 years, even as it plans to have more than 20 electrified vehicles on the market by 2025 and pushes into digitised mobility services, the CEO said.


With two-thirds of Audi’s 60 or so models by 2025 still slated to be combustion-engine cars, tightening carbon dioxide (CO2) rules will pose the “biggest risk” in coming years, he said, adding that Audi would face 1 billion euros of fines if its average fleet CO2 emissions exceeds EU limits by no more than eleven grammes per kilometers.

Audi has overhauled its whistleblower system to allow domestic and international staff to flag illegal conduct more easily and it has set up a permanent investigation office.

Audi plans early next year to dissolve a task force set up to monitor fixes for 850,000 diesel-fuelled cars that the automaker said in July needed updates with emissions-control software to help avoid potential driving bans.

“It’s a sign that we can slowly shift from crisis mode back into standard operation,” Stadler said, predicting the check-ups to be completed by the end of the first quarter.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 10 months ago

Lorenzo has broken a bone in his left wrist in a training accident and will require surgery. It was a fractured left wrist that left him missing several races in the latter part of last season. Not the best way to start things off with new employers Honda!

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As a result of his surgery Honda have elected for J-Lo to not run in the Sepang tests. His aim is to return fully fit for the Qatar Test, February 23 to 25.

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Post by John » 10 months ago

I thought those ghastly fins/winglets were going away for this year? What are they still doing there?
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Post by kals » 10 months ago

Is that the 2019 bike though? I thought that was just a livery reveal.

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Post by John » 10 months ago

kals wrote:
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Is that the 2019 bike though? I thought that was just a livery reveal.
Not quite sure, TBH. I've been out of the loop for the past few weeks. Would make sense, though.

If Petrux wins a race this year, I'll be adding "Lorenzo is a God" to my signature for the rest of the season. Not convinced he's entirely deserving of that bike.
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John wrote:
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If Petrux wins a race this year, I'll be adding "Lorenzo is a God" to my signature for the rest of the season.
Why 'Lorenzo' is Petrucci wins? :dunno:
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Not convinced he's entirely deserving of that bike.
Yup, agree. Been saying that for a while. Still think Redding was more deserving.

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kals wrote:
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John wrote:
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If Petrux wins a race this year, I'll be adding "Lorenzo is a God" to my signature for the rest of the season.
Why 'Lorenzo' is Petrucci wins? :dunno:
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Not convinced he's entirely deserving of that bike.
Yup, agree. Been saying that for a while. Still think Redding was more deserving.
Because

A) I loathe JLO
B) I'm entirely convinced Petrux won't win a race.

A bit like that time I said I'd eat my own testies if England won the World Cup. Nearly turned me into a eunuch, that.
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Post by kals » 10 months ago

Petrucci will be exciting to watch in 2019, he will achieve podiums and if circumstances are right could win a race (I'm thinking Jack Miller, Dutch TT 2016 type circumstance). He won't be as exciting as Iannone yet he will be reckless / overexcited from time to time.

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Post by Cheeveer » 9 months ago

Looks like shit. Petronas turquoise is yuck.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 9 months ago

Not my favourite.... reminds me too much of Merc F1. :wink:

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Post by kals » 9 months ago

Foggy Petronas anyone?

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