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Andreas Perez Fatal (?!?) crash

Post by mattia2 » 2 years ago

So, this afternoon Andreas Perez crashed out in Race-2 of the world Junior Moto3 Championship at Catalunya. THey showed only a few frames of the aftermath, but it was clear that the situation was tragic. The news aren't clear, the Avintia team says he's in a life threathing situation, but some site said that he was already dead. If someona has recorded/knows where to find the race pls post it down below, i've many doubts about this crash...

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Post by hollie3sa » 2 years ago

From what I've learned, that means there's not much hope.
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Post by Motorsportrace » 2 years ago

I'd like to see the aftermath, if anyone has it.
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Post by mattia2 » 2 years ago

hollie3sa wrote:
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From what I've learned, that means there's not much hope.
He is cerebrally dead, nothing can be done...

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Post by hollie3sa » 2 years ago

Pérez has officially been pronounced dead:
http://esponsorama.ad/es/fallece-andrea ... allery-com

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Post by Ian-S » 2 years ago

An article in English:
https://www.motorsport.com/cev/news/fou ... h-1045501/

14, wow. RIP.
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Post by mattia2 » 2 years ago

Yeah, it's really tragic. If anyone find the race please write it down there, i'm not that sure that he was hit only by the bikes behind. He was close to the unprotected wall when they showed the aftermath, so maybe he made also contact with the wall..

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Post by theracer120 » 2 years ago

Wasn't there a 12 or 13 year old killed in a MotoGP support race a few years back?

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Post by Ian-S » 2 years ago

mattia2 wrote:
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Yeah, it's really tragic. If anyone find the race please write it down there, i'm not that sure that he was hit only by the bikes behind. He was close to the unprotected wall when they showed the aftermath, so maybe he made also contact with the wall..
These races are I think usually shown on BT here, I'll keep an eye out but BT are so "socially sensitive" they will likely never repeat the broadcast because of what happened.
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Post by Sedre » 2 years ago

13-years rider killed in support race for MotoGP was Peter Lenz: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ms&n=9781

Also, last July young Moldovian motorcross rider Igor Ciuharciuc, also 13, died after fall at EMX85 European Championship Czech Grand Prix: http://ontrackoffroad.com/2017/07/23/em ... rand-prix/
http://www.radio.cz/en/section/news/mot ... after-fall
Ciuharciuc won his first national championship in 2010, when he was only 7.

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Post by mattia2 » 2 years ago

Ian-S wrote:
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mattia2 wrote:
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Yeah, it's really tragic. If anyone find the race please write it down there, i'm not that sure that he was hit only by the bikes behind. He was close to the unprotected wall when they showed the aftermath, so maybe he made also contact with the wall..
These races are I think usually shown on BT here, I'll keep an eye out but BT are so "socially sensitive" they will likely never repeat the broadcast because of what happened.
Exactly. I've watched the race live on Sky, but i can't record anything on my shitty pc. And one of my closest friend is the italian TV Commentator for the series....

Question for everyone in this thread, what are you're thoughts about the typical censorship by Dorna? I mean, they didn't show any replay, they even didn't give any update on the riders involved or their physical condition for over an hour and a half...

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Post by Ian-S » 2 years ago

The are laws which DORNA must follow, especially when it comes to a minor, it is not their job to update you on anybody's condition when an accident happens though. As for replays, I personally don't think these things should be censored, I really hate it when they "pause" footage because "it's too upsetting for us to show you", I'd rather they let me decided whether I want to watch something, but if the accident wasn't shown live then the director would have had access to it and it may be that they decided there and then not to show it if it was blatantly obvious he was going to die, or the crash was simply missed, ITV had seven cameras covering a certain spot at Oulton yesterday and every one of them missed a rolling Clio, it happens.

If it's caught live there's nothing they can do but if it isn't I can understand why they would be hesitant, especially since it involved a child.
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Ian-S wrote:
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The are laws which DORNA must follow, especially when it comes to a minor, it is not their job to update you on anybody's condition when an accident happens though. As for replays, I personally don't think these things should be censored, I really hate it when they "pause" footage because "it's too upsetting for us to show you", I'd rather they let me decided whether I want to watch something, but if the accident wasn't shown live then the director would have had access to it and it may be that they decided there and then not to show it if it was blatantly obvious he was going to die, or the crash was simply missed, ITV had seven cameras covering a certain spot at Oulton yesterday and every one of them missed a rolling Clio, it happens.

If it's caught live there's nothing they can do but if it isn't I can understand why they would be hesitant, especially since it involved a child.
Yeah, i think the same for the replay thing, but to me the lack of information it's just unbelievable, It happens every time there is a serious looking crash in any dorna championship, even with Michele Pirro at the Mugello it happened in a similar way. Or at Brno sunday, when Rusmiputro crashed hard during the SSP300 race, and they give us the name and an update on the rider condition during the podium. To me, that's just unacceptable, i can understand not showing the replay, but i can't understand this lack of basic information. Ok, i think there ara laws on childs privacy, but this happens even for adult people, and i can't simply understand it.

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Post by mattia2 » 2 years ago

In a few minutes i should have the footage, i'll link it down below.

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