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Post by Sedre » 11 months ago

Latest post of the previous page:

Will send both of these cases in next email to Nanni with rally fatalities.

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Post by acerogers58 » 11 months ago

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/more-ra ... hort-track

I believe this comes under the criteria

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Post by hollie3sa » 10 months ago

Sedre wrote:
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Sedre wrote:
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During 1989 Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship) held from 2 to 4 June 1989, German crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel that was involved in fatal crash, but I don't found any other information about unfortunate crew.

Sources:
http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
Came across this; http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf but I think it does not shares more info about the drivers
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
This site speaks of both drivers being killed from that German team: http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html
Jesper Hvid wrote:
3 years ago
Thanks both of you for the info on the new Belgian case. I'll await hollie3sa's comments, and submit the case then.

I have to say that I've not heard from mmorg for a long time, now. No update emails for weeks.

Anyhow,

---

Name: Christian Wolf or Oliver Michel (one survived).
Year: 1989.
Race: Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship), during one of the Wartet special stages.
Date of accident: 2 to 4 June.
Nationality: German.
Role: Driver or navigator.
Brand/Model: Peugeot 309 GTI.

Notes:

Crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel.

Sources:

http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf <--- here it states they hit the facade of a house.
http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html

(as yet unsubmitted)

---

Good work finding info on the case.
Case is finally closed:
Quand à la mort, j'ai vite réalisé qu'elle était une réalité dans la vie de pilote qu'on soit amateur ou pro. En 1989 en l'espace de deux semaines, j'ai vu mourir deux jeunes en Samba rallye enroulée autour d'un poteau aux Boucles d'El Pannetrie. Je partais 3 voitures derrière eux et dans le chaos indescriptible on m'a lâché en spéciale et j'ai rattrapé l'ambulance au moment où elle arrivait sur les lieux. L'image des corps disloqués me hante encore. Deux semaines plus tard, le second jour du rallye de Wallonie a été fatal à un équipage allemand engagé sur une Peugeot 309 Gti 16S. Pilote décédé et copilote tétraplégique. Aussi trois voitures devant nous...
Source: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/hi ... 431585.htm, posting by BBS5351

Christian Wolf
Complete name: Christian Wolf
Birth date: ??.??.????
Birth place: unknown
Death date: 03.06.1989
Death place: Wartet, Belgium
Nationality: West Germany
Gender: male
Age at death: ??

Event date: 03.06.1989
Series: Belgian Rally Championship
Race: 6. Rallye de Wallonie
Country: Belgium
Venue: Rallye de Wallonie
Variant: 1989, unknown special stage, Wartet

Role: driver
Vehicle type: car
Vehicle sub-type: touring car
Vehicle brand/model: Peugeot 309 GTI 16S
Vehicle number: ??

Crashed into fence and fell three meters below. Co-driver Oliver Michel was left tetraplegic.
It's actually the other way around. Just spoke with an acquaintance of mine and a friend of his. She worked in the car dealership which was owned by Wolf's parents at the time.

Christian Wolf survived and his co-driver Oliver Michel (from Rohrbach, Saarland) was killed. He was apparently braindead and the life supporting machines were turned off Monday after the accident.
Wolf is still alive but apparently severly disabled. He was cared for by his parents.

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Post by Sedre » 10 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
10 months ago
Sedre wrote:
2 years ago
Sedre wrote:
3 years ago

During 1989 Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship) held from 2 to 4 June 1989, German crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel that was involved in fatal crash, but I don't found any other information about unfortunate crew.

Sources:
http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
Came across this; http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf but I think it does not shares more info about the drivers
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
This site speaks of both drivers being killed from that German team: http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html
Jesper Hvid wrote:
3 years ago
Thanks both of you for the info on the new Belgian case. I'll await hollie3sa's comments, and submit the case then.

I have to say that I've not heard from mmorg for a long time, now. No update emails for weeks.

Anyhow,

---

Name: Christian Wolf or Oliver Michel (one survived).
Year: 1989.
Race: Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship), during one of the Wartet special stages.
Date of accident: 2 to 4 June.
Nationality: German.
Role: Driver or navigator.
Brand/Model: Peugeot 309 GTI.

Notes:

Crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel.

Sources:

http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf <--- here it states they hit the facade of a house.
http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html

(as yet unsubmitted)

---

Good work finding info on the case.
Case is finally closed:
Quand à la mort, j'ai vite réalisé qu'elle était une réalité dans la vie de pilote qu'on soit amateur ou pro. En 1989 en l'espace de deux semaines, j'ai vu mourir deux jeunes en Samba rallye enroulée autour d'un poteau aux Boucles d'El Pannetrie. Je partais 3 voitures derrière eux et dans le chaos indescriptible on m'a lâché en spéciale et j'ai rattrapé l'ambulance au moment où elle arrivait sur les lieux. L'image des corps disloqués me hante encore. Deux semaines plus tard, le second jour du rallye de Wallonie a été fatal à un équipage allemand engagé sur une Peugeot 309 Gti 16S. Pilote décédé et copilote tétraplégique. Aussi trois voitures devant nous...
Source: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/hi ... 431585.htm, posting by BBS5351

Christian Wolf
Complete name: Christian Wolf
Birth date: ??.??.????
Birth place: unknown
Death date: 03.06.1989
Death place: Wartet, Belgium
Nationality: West Germany
Gender: male
Age at death: ??

Event date: 03.06.1989
Series: Belgian Rally Championship
Race: 6. Rallye de Wallonie
Country: Belgium
Venue: Rallye de Wallonie
Variant: 1989, unknown special stage, Wartet

Role: driver
Vehicle type: car
Vehicle sub-type: touring car
Vehicle brand/model: Peugeot 309 GTI 16S
Vehicle number: ??

Crashed into fence and fell three meters below. Co-driver Oliver Michel was left tetraplegic.
It's actually the other way around. Just spoke with an acquaintance of mine and a friend of his. She worked in the car dealership which was owned by Wolf's parents at the time.

Christian Wolf survived and his co-driver Oliver Michel (from Rohrbach, Saarland) was killed. He was apparently braindead and the life supporting machines were turned off Monday after the accident.
Wolf is still alive but apparently severly disabled. He was cared for by his parents.
Thanks a lot! I'll immediately send this information to Nanni.

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Post by hollie3sa » 10 months ago

Beat Huber

Complete name: Beat Huber
Birth date: ??.???.????
Birth Place: unknown, unknown
Death date: 30.Jun.1979
Death Place: Schupfart, Switzerland
Nationality: Switzerland
Gender: male
Age at death: 20

Event date: 30.Jun.1979
Series: unknown - The main event was part of the MX world championship. The race in which Huber died probably not? I don't know
Race: Suisse Moto Cross GP
Event type: race
Country: Switzerland
Venue: Schupfart
Variant: motocross circuit

Role: rider
Vehicle type: motorcycle
Vehicle sub-type: motocross
Vehicle brand/model: unknown
Vehicle number: ??

Notes: Beat Huber from Davos died after an accident in an elimination race in the 'debutants' category. He fell and succumbed to his injuries at the scene. No other rider was involved.

Source (see below): Walliser Bote, July 3rd 1979

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Post by Sedre » 10 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
10 months ago
Sedre wrote:
2 years ago
Sedre wrote:
3 years ago

During 1989 Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship) held from 2 to 4 June 1989, German crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel that was involved in fatal crash, but I don't found any other information about unfortunate crew.

Sources:
http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
Came across this; http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf but I think it does not shares more info about the drivers
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
This site speaks of both drivers being killed from that German team: http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html
Jesper Hvid wrote:
3 years ago
Thanks both of you for the info on the new Belgian case. I'll await hollie3sa's comments, and submit the case then.

I have to say that I've not heard from mmorg for a long time, now. No update emails for weeks.

Anyhow,

---

Name: Christian Wolf or Oliver Michel (one survived).
Year: 1989.
Race: Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship), during one of the Wartet special stages.
Date of accident: 2 to 4 June.
Nationality: German.
Role: Driver or navigator.
Brand/Model: Peugeot 309 GTI.

Notes:

Crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel.

Sources:

http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf <--- here it states they hit the facade of a house.
http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html

(as yet unsubmitted)

---

Good work finding info on the case.
Case is finally closed:
Quand à la mort, j'ai vite réalisé qu'elle était une réalité dans la vie de pilote qu'on soit amateur ou pro. En 1989 en l'espace de deux semaines, j'ai vu mourir deux jeunes en Samba rallye enroulée autour d'un poteau aux Boucles d'El Pannetrie. Je partais 3 voitures derrière eux et dans le chaos indescriptible on m'a lâché en spéciale et j'ai rattrapé l'ambulance au moment où elle arrivait sur les lieux. L'image des corps disloqués me hante encore. Deux semaines plus tard, le second jour du rallye de Wallonie a été fatal à un équipage allemand engagé sur une Peugeot 309 Gti 16S. Pilote décédé et copilote tétraplégique. Aussi trois voitures devant nous...
Source: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/hi ... 431585.htm, posting by BBS5351

Christian Wolf
Complete name: Christian Wolf
Birth date: ??.??.????
Birth place: unknown
Death date: 03.06.1989
Death place: Wartet, Belgium
Nationality: West Germany
Gender: male
Age at death: ??

Event date: 03.06.1989
Series: Belgian Rally Championship
Race: 6. Rallye de Wallonie
Country: Belgium
Venue: Rallye de Wallonie
Variant: 1989, unknown special stage, Wartet

Role: driver
Vehicle type: car
Vehicle sub-type: touring car
Vehicle brand/model: Peugeot 309 GTI 16S
Vehicle number: ??

Crashed into fence and fell three meters below. Co-driver Oliver Michel was left tetraplegic.
It's actually the other way around. Just spoke with an acquaintance of mine and a friend of his. She worked in the car dealership which was owned by Wolf's parents at the time.

Christian Wolf survived and his co-driver Oliver Michel (from Rohrbach, Saarland) was killed. He was apparently braindead and the life supporting machines were turned off Monday after the accident.
Wolf is still alive but apparently severly disabled. He was cared for by his parents.
Corrected: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... ct&n=12910

Nanni asked name of woman who provided information about this accident to add her to acknowledgements.

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Post by hollie3sa » 10 months ago

Sedre wrote:
10 months ago
hollie3sa wrote:
10 months ago
Sedre wrote:
2 years ago
Sedre wrote:
3 years ago

During 1989 Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship) held from 2 to 4 June 1989, German crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel that was involved in fatal crash, but I don't found any other information about unfortunate crew.

Sources:
http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
Came across this; http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf but I think it does not shares more info about the drivers
Roys1981 wrote:
3 years ago
This site speaks of both drivers being killed from that German team: http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html
Jesper Hvid wrote:
3 years ago
Thanks both of you for the info on the new Belgian case. I'll await hollie3sa's comments, and submit the case then.

I have to say that I've not heard from mmorg for a long time, now. No update emails for weeks.

Anyhow,

---

Name: Christian Wolf or Oliver Michel (one survived).
Year: 1989.
Race: Rallye de Wallonie (round of Belgium rally championship), during one of the Wartet special stages.
Date of accident: 2 to 4 June.
Nationality: German.
Role: Driver or navigator.
Brand/Model: Peugeot 309 GTI.

Notes:

Crew left the road during one of Wartet special stages, crashed into fence and fell three meters below; one of drivers was killed and second was left tetraplegic. According to ewrc-results.com, it was Peugeot 309 GTI of Christian Wolf and Oliver Michel.

Sources:

http://www.sacreaventures.be/index.php? ... lonie-1989
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/1772 ... onie-1989/
http://www.bibliotheca-andana.be/wp-con ... 3-1-SI.pdf <--- here it states they hit the facade of a house.
http://velvetmotion.com/automobileclubn ... 89_nl.html

(as yet unsubmitted)

---

Good work finding info on the case.
Case is finally closed:
Quand à la mort, j'ai vite réalisé qu'elle était une réalité dans la vie de pilote qu'on soit amateur ou pro. En 1989 en l'espace de deux semaines, j'ai vu mourir deux jeunes en Samba rallye enroulée autour d'un poteau aux Boucles d'El Pannetrie. Je partais 3 voitures derrière eux et dans le chaos indescriptible on m'a lâché en spéciale et j'ai rattrapé l'ambulance au moment où elle arrivait sur les lieux. L'image des corps disloqués me hante encore. Deux semaines plus tard, le second jour du rallye de Wallonie a été fatal à un équipage allemand engagé sur une Peugeot 309 Gti 16S. Pilote décédé et copilote tétraplégique. Aussi trois voitures devant nous...
Source: http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/hi ... 431585.htm, posting by BBS5351

Christian Wolf
Complete name: Christian Wolf
Birth date: ??.??.????
Birth place: unknown
Death date: 03.06.1989
Death place: Wartet, Belgium
Nationality: West Germany
Gender: male
Age at death: ??

Event date: 03.06.1989
Series: Belgian Rally Championship
Race: 6. Rallye de Wallonie
Country: Belgium
Venue: Rallye de Wallonie
Variant: 1989, unknown special stage, Wartet

Role: driver
Vehicle type: car
Vehicle sub-type: touring car
Vehicle brand/model: Peugeot 309 GTI 16S
Vehicle number: ??

Crashed into fence and fell three meters below. Co-driver Oliver Michel was left tetraplegic.
It's actually the other way around. Just spoke with an acquaintance of mine and a friend of his. She worked in the car dealership which was owned by Wolf's parents at the time.

Christian Wolf survived and his co-driver Oliver Michel (from Rohrbach, Saarland) was killed. He was apparently braindead and the life supporting machines were turned off Monday after the accident.
Wolf is still alive but apparently severly disabled. He was cared for by his parents.
Corrected: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... ct&n=12910

Nanni asked name of woman who provided information about this accident to add her to acknowledgements.
I don't know her full name and apart from that would like to keep her anonymity.

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Post by Sedre » 10 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
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Beat Huber

Complete name: Beat Huber
Birth date: ??.???.????
Birth Place: unknown, unknown
Death date: 30.Jun.1979
Death Place: Schupfart, Switzerland
Nationality: Switzerland
Gender: male
Age at death: 20

Event date: 30.Jun.1979
Series: unknown - The main event was part of the MX world championship. The race in which Huber died probably not? I don't know
Race: Suisse Moto Cross GP
Event type: race
Country: Switzerland
Venue: Schupfart
Variant: motocross circuit

Role: rider
Vehicle type: motorcycle
Vehicle sub-type: motocross
Vehicle brand/model: unknown
Vehicle number: ??

Notes: Beat Huber from Davos died after an accident in an elimination race in the 'debutants' category. He fell and succumbed to his injuries at the scene. No other rider was involved.

Source (see below): Walliser Bote, July 3rd 1979

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Done: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ms&n=4023

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Post by hollie3sa » 10 months ago

http://motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=8496


Age at death missing. @Sedre, you once stated that you found his age during your own research.

The following article says he was 20. Can you confirm?
https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0-----

The article above is inconsistent with this one:
https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0-----

One says Hutin died at the scene while the other says he died after being admitted to the hospital.
He was reported to be from Geneva (article 1) or from Laconnex (article 2). I'm assuming the first article was talking of the canton of Geneva.

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Post by Sedre » 10 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
10 months ago
http://motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=8496


Age at death missing. @Sedre, you once stated that you found his age during your own research.

The following article says he was 20. Can you confirm?
https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0-----

The article above is inconsistent with this one:
https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0-----

One says Hutin died at the scene while the other says he died after being admitted to the hospital.
He was reported to be from Geneva (article 1) or from Laconnex (article 2). I'm assuming the first article was talking of the canton of Geneva.
Hutin's age is stated to be 20 by two other Swiss newspapers:

https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0-----
https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0-----

However, only one (first one) states that he died in hospital so I'm not sure if he indeed died there or if he was dead at scene.

About his place of living - source 1 states Laconnex, source 2 and source 3: https://www.e-newspaperarchives.ch/?a=d ... ----0----- states that he was "Genevois" - I also believe that it means that he was from Geneva canton.

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Post by Sedre » 10 months ago

Italian driver Michele Gerolami (24) died from heart attack while competing in Italian Formula Driver Championship at Bigolino di Valdobbiadene in Treviso:

https://ricerca.gelocal.it/messaggerove ... _DTA3.html
https://ricerca.gelocal.it/tribunatrevi ... TC101.html

@Motorsportrace, maybe you can find more about this case. I didn't find in which type of event Gerolami's death happened - practice, race or something else.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 10 months ago

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Italian driver Michele Gerolami (24) died from heart attack while competing in Italian Formula Driver Championship at Bigolino di Valdobbiadene in Treviso:

https://ricerca.gelocal.it/messaggerove ... _DTA3.html
https://ricerca.gelocal.it/tribunatrevi ... TC101.html

@Motorsportrace, maybe you can find more about this case. I didn't find in which type of event Gerolami's death happened - practice, race or something else.
It happened on sunday morning.
The articles say it was during the race (the circuit was built in a large square, outside an industrial building, so it must've been quite small).
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Post by Sedre » 9 months ago

acerogers58 wrote:
11 months ago
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/more-ra ... hort-track

I believe this comes under the criteria
Done (without my assistance): http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... ct&n=13256

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Post by hollie3sa » 9 months ago

Tom Stewart's entry is wrong. He died in 1980.

http://motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=1404
Stewart was the first victim of a racing accident in eight seasons of Formula Atlantic championships, and the first person to lose his life in fourteen years at the Lime Rock circuit.


Art Foster died in 1968:

http://motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ct&n=3100

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Post by Sedre » 7 months ago

Finally, search function on Motorsport Memorial works as it should be:

https://forums.autosport.com/topic/9705 ... ?p=9204960

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Post by Motorsportrace » 7 months ago

Sedre wrote:
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Finally, search function on Motorsport Memorial works as it should be:

https://forums.autosport.com/topic/9705 ... ?p=9204960
After years...
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