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Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:23 am
by SB83

Latest post of the previous page:

Great result for DiBurrito. Tops his previous best of sixth at Bristol in 2016. I always hoped to see him in a really good Cup ride for a few races but guess he'll never get that chance.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 04:55 am
by acerogers58
Justin Haley wins his first race in his third cup series start after a gamble he won with the rain

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 18:03 pm
by John
acerogers58 wrote:
5 months ago
Justin Haley wins his first race in his third cup series start after a gamble he won with the rain
After Nascar letting the drivers know it was going green in a few laps and he was the first one not to pit. There's quite a few drivers out there who have every right to be angered.

Turned on midway through, and it seems like they have sorted out the plate races. It was fun.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 19:31 pm
by erwin greven
John wrote:
5 months ago
After Nascar letting the drivers know it was going green in a few laps and he was the first one not to pit. There's quite a few drivers out there who have every right to be angered.

Turned on midway through, and it seems like they have sorted out the plate races. It was fun.
The Pace car lights went out, with one lap to green. And then, while a few drivers had pitted, including Kurt Busch, the lights went on again and the race was red flagged. Not the first time Kurt has been nailed by this.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 19:59 pm
by Ian-S
Nobody got screwed over, the pace car lights went off at the start/finish line and they got one to go, then there was a lightning strike as the field were on the back stretch, and the legal fallout from the Pocono deaths a few years ago has caused NASCAR to be super risk averse and I believe it was part of the settlement that they implement a lightning strike procedure.

It's not like they knew where and when the Lightning strike was going to happen and conspired against Kurt Busch, if I was a crew chief, knowing there had been lightning strikes 20 miles away heading this way, I'd have told my driver to stay out until they ran out too, not pitted him like Busch's chief did.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 20:34 pm
by John
Thanks for clarifying @Ian-S and @erwin greven , I switched off during the rain delay and only read the post-race rants on the Interwebs today.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 06:03 am
by SB83
Ian-S wrote:
5 months ago
Nobody got screwed over, the pace car lights went off at the start/finish line and they got one to go, then there was a lightning strike as the field were on the back stretch, and the legal fallout from the Pocono deaths a few years ago has caused NASCAR to be super risk averse and I believe it was part of the settlement that they implement a lightning strike procedure.

It's not like they knew where and when the Lightning strike was going to happen and conspired against Kurt Busch, if I was a crew chief, knowing there had been lightning strikes 20 miles away heading this way, I'd have told my driver to stay out until they ran out too, not pitted him like Busch's chief did.
But don't you think then that they should have reverted back to the previous lap's running order?

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 00:26 am
by Ian-S
SB83 wrote:
5 months ago
Ian-S wrote:
5 months ago
Nobody got screwed over, the pace car lights went off at the start/finish line and they got one to go, then there was a lightning strike as the field were on the back stretch, and the legal fallout from the Pocono deaths a few years ago has caused NASCAR to be super risk averse and I believe it was part of the settlement that they implement a lightning strike procedure.

It's not like they knew where and when the Lightning strike was going to happen and conspired against Kurt Busch, if I was a crew chief, knowing there had been lightning strikes 20 miles away heading this way, I'd have told my driver to stay out until they ran out too, not pitted him like Busch's chief did.
But don't you think then that they should have reverted back to the previous lap's running order?
I've never known them to do that previously?

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:06 am
by SB83
Ian-S wrote:
5 months ago
SB83 wrote:
5 months ago
Ian-S wrote:
5 months ago
Nobody got screwed over, the pace car lights went off at the start/finish line and they got one to go, then there was a lightning strike as the field were on the back stretch, and the legal fallout from the Pocono deaths a few years ago has caused NASCAR to be super risk averse and I believe it was part of the settlement that they implement a lightning strike procedure.

It's not like they knew where and when the Lightning strike was going to happen and conspired against Kurt Busch, if I was a crew chief, knowing there had been lightning strikes 20 miles away heading this way, I'd have told my driver to stay out until they ran out too, not pitted him like Busch's chief did.
But don't you think then that they should have reverted back to the previous lap's running order?
I've never known them to do that previously?
I mean like how if a pass happens after a yellow, the order is reverted to the way it was before the yellow lights came on.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:49 am
by Ian-S
But this wasn't green flag > caution > pass for position, this was race under caution > field given one to go > leader pits > half a lap later lightning strike > litigation avoidance red flag > pisses down > race declared.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 18:36 pm
by SB83
The point is that actions and positions changed as a result can be nullified by going to the running order of the previous lap, before wrongly giving the one-to-go. And it's something they could have easily done but didn't because NASCAR.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 09:31 am
by Ian-S
It wasn't wrong to give the one to go signal was it if at the time they fully intended to restart the race?

Unless you're saying NASCAR have the ability to predict where and when a lightning strike will occur and they knew it would happen, if that were the case, why start the race in the first place?

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:13 am
by SB83
To give the one to go was not a mistake as there's obviously no way they'd know lightning would strike. However, once the lightning struck and they had to abort the race, they could've reverted back to the running order as it was before the call of one to go was given.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 21:56 pm
by Cclark22
And the trend is set to continue

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 19:07 pm
by erwin greven
Talladega round is restarted at lap 59 of 188. Yesterday it was redflagged because of the weather conditions.

Re: NASCAR 2019 - News and Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 20:12 pm
by erwin greven
Today's Big One #1