CAMS bans Stadium Super Trucks

[DoubleFart]

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What the hell is hooning? A friend of mine was fined AUD$500 for moving her mobile phone to one part of the car to another by Aussie police last year. I think "Nazis" would describe what I think of them.

was she driving?

Yeah, if she was driving then tough shit, she wasn't concentrating on driving.

[erwin greven]

What the hell is hooning? A friend of mine was fined AUD$500 for moving her mobile phone to one part of the car to another by Aussie police last year. I think "Nazis" would describe what I think of them.

was she driving?

Yeah, if she was driving then tough shit, she wasn't concentrating on driving.

exactly!! though deal, but the fine is 100% rightful.

[theracer120]

CAMS bans Stadium Super Trucks on safety grounds.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/09/20/ca ... y-grounds/

I can understand them being considered too "risky" but what I don't understand is why they are only being banned now when they've been racing here for several years. I can't imagine they're any more dangerous now then when they first got here.

And besides, they could always run them without the jumps or something because banning them now is actually fucking over the teams and drivers involved (as Paul Morris is going on about here)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/09/20/su ... eam-owner/

[Ian-S]

Welcome to our world where common sense is dispensed in favour of fear porn and things that have been the same way or ticking along just fine for years are banned because something might happen.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Seems more like it is having a go at Jeff Gordon for his hoon behaviour in the past, than as a result of any injuries in Australian Super Trucks.Take his visa away type stuff. (Which they did until he paid an extortionately unproportional donation to 'road safety' funds)
Maybe CAMS dont like it that his truck series is more popular with TV / reality/people than anything they can come up with.

[theracer120]

You mean Robby

And I can't help thinking it's all a bit of conspiracy too.

[Everso Biggyballies]

You mean Robby

And I can't help thinking it's all a bit of conspiracy too.

Whoops brain fade. Too much Spanish sun. And red wine Yeah I meant Robby.

[Everso Biggyballies]

CAMS bans Stadium Super Trucks on safety grounds.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/09/20/ca ... y-grounds/

I can understand them being considered too "risky" but what I don't understand is why they are only being banned now when they've been racing here for several years. I can't imagine they're any more dangerous now then when they first got here.

And besides, they could always run them without the jumps or something because banning them now is actually fucking over the teams and drivers involved (as Paul Morris is going on about here)

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/09/20/su ... eam-owner/

Robby Fights back..... Challenges the CAMS Stadium SUper Trucks ban in the Victorian Supreme Court. Hearing tomorrow.

The Victorian Supreme Court is set to hear the dispute between Stadium Super Trucks and the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport (CAMS).

CAMS last month suspended Stadium Super Trucks from competing in Australia on safety grounds, a move which forced Supercars to remove them from the support bill of the Vodafone Gold Coast 600.

Owned by American racer Robby Gordon, Stadium Super Trucks competed on the streets of the Gold Coast in 2015 and 2016, though missed last year’s event.

The series has already supported Supercars twice in 2018, featuring at Adelaide and Barbagallo, where a wheel struck the pedestrian bridge following a crash for Matt Nolan off one of the jumps on the front straight.

Supercars has drafted in the Kumho Tyres V8 Touring Car Series to replace Stadium Super Trucks, with category manager Liam Kirkpatrick hopeful of attracting a 15-car grid for the non-championship event.

It will be the first time the unofficial third tier has raced on the Gold Coast.

CAMS refused to comment on the matter when contacted by Speedcafe.com.

Comment has been sought from Stadium Super Trucks series owner Robby Gordon.

The case is set to be heard at 1030 on Friday morning.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/10/04/st ... eme-court/

[Everso Biggyballies]

Robby Fights back..... Challenges the CAMS Stadium SUper Trucks ban in the Victorian Supreme Court. Hearing tomorrow

The case is set to be heard at 1030 on Friday morning.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/10/04/st ... eme-court/

Judges decision delayed until next week:

The outcome of legal proceedings between Stadium Super Trucks and the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport will be confirmed next week following court proceedings in Melbourne today.

Stadium Super Trucks is seeking an injunction against CAMS which last month suspended the American series’ licence to compete in Australia on safety grounds.

It saw the category removed from the Vodafone Gold Coast 600 support schedule, prompting the Robby Gordon owned series to appeal the decision through the Victorian Supreme Court.

The case was heard by Justice John Digby who has reserved his decision to summarise all the evidence and make a decision by 1700 AEST Wednesday.

Stadium Super Trucks’ submission is understood to have included affidavits from Stadium Super Truck’s Director of Partners and Operations Nathan Cayzer, Larry Perkins, and engineer Scott Agars, while CAMS’ included affidavits from its Sporting and Technical Manager Scott McGrath, Director of Racing Operations Tim Schenken, and General Counsel Tahli Preston-Dixon.

“The matter is before the court, the decision is reserved and it’s inappropriate for us to comment any further at this stage,” Cayzer told Speedcafe.com.

CAMS did not respond when contacted for comment on the matter.

Stadium Super Trucks competed on the streets of the Gold Coast in 2015 and 2016, although missed last year’s event.

The series has already supported Supercars twice in 2018, featuring at Adelaide and Barbagallo, where a wheel struck the pedestrian bridge following a crash for Matt Nolan off one of the jumps on the front straight.

It is believed that much of the additional Stadium Super Trucks equipment needed for the Gold Coast event is already in transit from the US.

Supercars has announced that the Kumho Tyres V8 Touring Car Series will fill the hole left by the series in the Gold Coast program.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/10/05/st ... next-week/

[John]

This has 'naff all to do with safety grounds, but probably more of a case of CAMS not wanting a foreign series hogging too much of the limelight, I think. Plus probably sticking it to Robbie as well.

In a way - sure - CAMS job is to promote Aussie motorsport, and unless the money is good enough, they'll probably keep the trucks out of the country. Pay up, or get out.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Decision due yesterday delayed due to new evidence from Robby Gordon.

A decision in legal proceedings between Stadium Super Trucks and the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport is expected to not be made until tomorrow (Thursday).

SST is seeking an injunction against CAMS, which has suspended the American series’ licence to compete in Australia on safety grounds.

The case began last Friday but Justice John Digby reserved his decision to summarise all the evidence and make a decision today.

Speedcafe.com understands that said decision has been delayed another day after Robby Gordon Entertainment, which owns the series, attempted to introduce new evidence to the case.

It is believed that evidence pertained to on-track incidents which occurred during last weekend’s Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000.

SST, currently led by Australian Matt Brabham, was to race at the Vodafone Gold Coast 600 in just over a week’s time, where it has run twice before (2015, 2016).

It has already supported the Virgin Australia Supercars Championship twice in 2018, at Adelaide and Barbagallo, the latter of which saw a wheel strike the pedestrian bridge when Matt Nolan crashed off one of the jumps on the main straight.

CAMS was approached by Speedcafe.com but could not provide a comment due to the ongoing nature of the court proceedings.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/10/10/su ... yed-again/

[Everso Biggyballies]

This has 'naff all to do with safety grounds, but probably more of a case of CAMS not wanting a foreign series hogging too much of the limelight, I think. Plus probably sticking it to Robbie as well.

In a way - sure - CAMS job is to promote Aussie motorsport, and unless the money is good enough, they'll probably keep the trucks out of the country. Pay up, or get out.

They have already made Robby Gordon's license renewal (after they took his competition license away from him for 'being a hoon') subject to his contributing $$$ many thousands to a Road Safety programme.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Supreme Court has upheld the CAMS suspension of Super Trucks.

The new evidence outlined below was not admitted to the case. It seems wheels flying off VASC cars is ok, as are other parts flying off from other categories of car.

I think CAMS need to look at their own VASC supporting Super Utes if they want to see potential danger with their propensity to roll over at the sight of a corner.

Yes Motor Sport is dangerous. That is half the appeal to competitors and spectators alike.

I feel very sorry for Robby Gordon and cant help but think this was more at him than the concept.

The Victorian Supreme Court has upheld the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport’s (CAMS) suspension of Stadium Super Trucks’ licence to race at CAMS-sanctioned events.

Robby Gordon Entertainment, which owns the series, had applied for an injunction against the ban ahead of the Vodafone Gold Coast 600 which it had been due to appear at in just over a week’s time.

According to a statement from CAMS issued after the judgement was handed down, the ban had been in place since May, shortly after an incident when a wheel struck the pedestrian bridge at the Barbagallo Raceway Supercars event.

The matter went to court on Friday of last week but a decision was delayed until yesterday in order to allow Justice John Digby time to consider the evidence.

The decision was pushed back another day when Stadium Super Trucks attempted to introduce new evidence from the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 meeting, namely the incident when the #1 Triple Eight Supercar lost a wheel and when a Touring Car Masters car broke a tailshaft, part of which was thrown into an overhead sign.

That evidence was not admitted.

CAMS’ statement not only affirms that the ban was made on safety grounds, as first reported by Speedcafe.com, but clarifies that the wheel incident in Perth was one of the key considerations in the ban.

“Following a serious incident at a Stadium Super Trucks round in Perth in May, a CAMS working group was established to consider the safety risks of the category,” read the statement, which is reproduced below in full.

“A number of safety related incidents were then analysed and CAMS’ expert view was that the category posed a significant and increasing risk.

“It was CAMS’ view that the potential risks were too great to continue, particularly at a confined street circuit.”

Stadium Super Trucks has raced predominantly on street circuits in Australia, having become a fixture on the Adelaide 500 support bill, a regular at the Gold Coast 600, and also appeared at the Sydney 500.

The series raced at Barbagallo and Darwin’s Hidden Valley last year, before returning to the former in 2018.

CAMS CEO Eugene Arocca has reiterated that the safety of competitors, officials and spectators is paramount following the outcome in court today.

“Whether it is grassroots motor sport or competition on the national stage, the safety of competitors, officials and spectators is paramount and something we will not compromise on,” said Arocca.

“As the governing body for four-wheeled motor sport in Australia, we have a responsibility to ensure we do everything possible to make the sport as safe as it can be, and we believe this category poses a significant risk, particularly on a confined street circuit.

“We have been open with the category management about these risks and what action could be taken to enable them to return to action in Australia.

“Suspending a category is always a last resort. Unfortunately we had no other alternative in this case as we believe there is a significant risk to competitors, spectators and officials.”

Stadium Super Truck’s Director of Partners and Operations Nathan Cayzer told Spedcafe.com that he could not comment on the specifics of the matter but did thank the fans of the series for their support.

“At this point in time we are not in a position to say what our next move is, but we will certainly relay to our Stadium Super Trucks fans, who have been very loyal to us, what we will be doing going forward,” he said.

The Kumho Tyre Australian V8 Touring Car Series has been added to the support bill as a replacement for Stadium Super Trucks on the streets of Surfers Paradise and is set to feature a 14-car field for the non-points round.

Official statement released by CAMS
A gloating load of irrelevant bollocks IMO.

CAMS welcomes today’s ruling in the Supreme Court of Victoria upholding its suspension of Stadium Super Trucks.

CAMS’ responsibility is to ensure we do everything we can to make motor sport as safe as possible for everyone involved in the sport, including competitors, spectators and officials. We are delegated this authority by the Federation Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA).

The decision to suspend any category is always a last resort and one we don’t take lightly, including this category which has proven to be quite popular with motor sport fans.

Following a serious incident at a Stadium Super Trucks round in Perth in May, a CAMS working group was established to consider the safety risks of the category.

A number of safety related incidents were then analysed and CAMS’ expert view was that the category posed a significant and increasing risk. It was CAMS’ view that the potential risks were too great to continue, particularly at a confined street circuit.

These concerns were put to the category manager who failed to provide a satisfactory and suitable response to the dangers identified and the decision was then made to suspend the category in Australia. It’s important to note this suspension has been in place since May, 2018.

Since then, the category’s management had applied to the Supreme Court of Victoria to overturn that suspension, filing an injunction against CAMS, however today that injunction was denied in court, vindicating CAMS’ position.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Robby responds.... it aint over yet.

This looks like it might get ugly, with Robby Gordon issuing a statement promising to “pursue all its options against CAMS” if CAMS does not respond to its safety proposals. I think this is becoming more a bitch fight than anything else.

Its statement today claims that CAMS did not reasonably consider the safety modifications to vehicles and series rules which it had proposed in response to CAMS’ concerns.

“Despite repeated submissions from SST on no less than six occasions, CAMS failed to address SST’s detailed safety proposals,” read SST’s statement, in part.

“On 11 July SST sent a set of detailed proposals to CAMS addressing CAMS’ stated concerns. Those proposals included replacing the CAST wheels with stronger FORGED wheels and tethering the hoods to the vehicles.

“To date, CAMS has failed to respond to any of those proposals. Despite CAMS’ failure to respond, SST proceeded to install the stronger FORGED wheels and tethered hoods, at its own considerable expense.

“We disagree with CAMS’ assertion that CAMS put their concerns to us at any time. CAMS did not engage in providing guidance on how to improve safety and failed to even consider the measures taken by SST.

“CAMS officials in their evidence to the Court acknowledged that they did not know whether the measures taken by SST had addressed their concerns.”

CAMS’ own statement, issued a short time after the judgement was handed down, affirmed that an incident in Barbagallo when a truck threw a wheel into the pedestrian bridge was a key factor.

“(The safety) concerns were put to the category manager who failed to provide a satisfactory and suitable response to the dangers identified and the decision was then made to suspend the category in Australia. It’s important to note this suspension has been in place since May, 2018,” read the CAMS statement, in part.

Full statement and story: https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/10/12/st ... judgement/

[theracer120]

I think he and the people involved deserve some financial compensation if they can't get the series unbanned tbh.

[Everso Biggyballies]

+1.
I think the way CAMS have behaved is deplorable and motivated by 'other (non sporting) agendas'.