The Fastlane Trivia Quiz....Show us your knowledge! (PART 2)

[Michael Ferner]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Not 'Feel Heel'. Non-European is correct, though, but think more southern.

@erwin greven No, he finished the race on the lead lap. 19 finishers on the lead lap, doesn't happen that often at Pau, or Zolder, or Thruxton. At xxx, however, it's not that unusual.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Thinking more Southern made me suddenly think of one of our local boys. I dont recall Alan Jones ever doing F2 in any championship sense (but maybe he did a one off?), with him doing the F5000 thing prior to F1. So as a southern hemisphere guess I'll throw in AJ.

[erwin greven]

Did Denny Hulme an F2 race?

[Michkov]

Did Denny Hulme an F2 race?

Pretty sure he did, didn't he and Jack Brabham dominate F2 during 66?

[Everso Biggyballies]

Nelson Piquet is another than springs to mind.... I remember he ran an F3 car out of a lockup garage in the same buildings as where Brabham were based at, down by the canal in Byfleet, 100 metres from where Mum and Dad lived. I recall he was in F3 then suddenly appeared in F1 so maybe he had a one off as it seemed to be the thing to do in those days.

[Michael Ferner]

Thinking more Southern made me suddenly think of one of our local boys. I dont recall Alan Jones ever doing F2 in any championship sense (but maybe he did a one off?), with him doing the F5000 thing prior to F1. So as a southern hemisphere guess I'll throw in AJ.

No need to be timid, AJ it is.

In early 1977, he was temporarily out of an F 1 drive, and so accepted a guest drive in a Fred Opert (semi-works) Chevron/Hart at the Nürburgring. Neither engine nor chassis were really top-notch that year, so he qualified only mid-field, and appears to have had some problems to finish several minutes behind winner Jochen Mass in 19th, and second from last.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Thanks, great question @Michael Ferner.... my answer was more an educated (?) guess than knowledge per se. I guess it is my turn to post a question, so here goes.

I will keep it in the Southern Hemisphere, and this should be fairly easy.

In history we have had only one instance when one of the main manufacturers was not present for a round of the Australian Touring Car Championship. Question is which manufacturer, what race, what year, and what happened to cause this unintended absence?

[John]

Thanks, great question @Michael Ferner.... my answer was more an educated (?) guess than knowledge per se. I guess it is my turn to post a question, so here goes.

I will keep it in the Southern Hemisphere, and this should be fairly easy.

In history we have had only one instance when one of the main manufacturers was not present for a round of the Australian Touring Car Championship. Question is which manufacturer, what race, what year, and what happened to cause this unintended absence?

After two weeks, I think it's safe to say we don't know the answer.

[Everso Biggyballies]

In history we have had only one instance when one of the main manufacturers was not present for a round of the Australian Touring Car Championship. Question is which manufacturer, what race, what year, and what happened to cause this unintended absence?

After two weeks, I think it's safe to say we don't know the answer.

OK Sorry I forgot about this one otherwise I would have given clues. I thought it might have been easy given only Holden and Ford have been at all bar one meeting, and Aus being known for its Ford v Holden rivalry.

The question was a bit of trivia mentioned on our RPM Motorsports weekly on Channel 10 FTA at the time of the recent WInton VASC meeting.

Yes the meeting in question was at Winton, back in 1985 when the championship was held for Group A cars for the first time. Up to 1984 (from I think 1973) it had been for Group C spec cars. The Winton ATCC The meeting was held in February, as season opener. It was also the first ATCC event held at the track. This brought about a series of firsts for the ATCC.

The missing make was Holden. Peter Brock had built and readied a single car but raced it at the Wellington 500 in the days when cars were shipped by sea. (Wellington that year was a non championship race. After serious concerns about the narrowness of the circuit as well as safety, the circuit did not pass FIA inspection. For the race to be able to go ahead the promoters had to re-write the regulations turning the event from an international race to a national race, thus eliminating the need for FIA approval.)

Brock's car competed in Wellington iat the end of January but was delayed in transit back and was not back in Australia in time for the Winton ATCC race held on the 9th of February.. His car was back and ready in time for round 2 at Sandown later in the month, an event in which Brock won his only round of the year.

In fact New Zealand drivers won 9 of the 10 ATCC rounds held that year, the title being won by Australia resident Kiwi Jim Richards in the JPS BMW 635. Richards won 7 rounds of the Championship,(Winton, Wanneroo, Adelaide, Calder, Surfers, Lakeside and Amaroo,) with Brock winning Sandown and (Kiwi) Robbie Francevic won two rounds (Symmons Plains and Oran Park) in his Volvo 240T .

Another bit of trivia relating to the year is that Francevic, who lived in and commuted from Auckland to race that year became the first ever non Aussie resident to win a round of the ATCC.

The first round of the series at Winton also created history when for the first time since the ATCC was first held in 1960, no Holden of any sort was on the grid. The race also saw the first ever ATCC race win by a BMW with Richards winning by a lap from his new JPS team mate, fellow New Zealander Neville Crichton. Richards' win in the BMW also saw the first ATCC round win by a European car since Jim McKeown won the 7th and final round of the 1970 ATCC at Symmons Plains in a Porsche 911S

So Winton was the only ATTC / V8SC race in history to not feature a Holden.
First ever ATCC round held at Winton.
It was also the first ever ATCC race win by a BMW.

First in with another question gets the gig.

[Michael Ferner]

What have Jochen Mass and Eddie Cheever in common. It has to do with Ron Dennis.

[John]

What have Jochen Mass and Eddie Cheever in common. It has to do with Ron Dennis.

Racing together in Project Four? In F2, perhaps, seeing as they were never teammates in F1 afaik.

[Everso Biggyballies]

What have Jochen Mass and Eddie Cheever in common. It has to do with Ron Dennis.

Racing together in Project Four? In F2, perhaps, seeing as they were never teammates in F1 afaik.

I would say nail head hammer etc and got it there.

[John]

What have Jochen Mass and Eddie Cheever in common. It has to do with Ron Dennis.

Racing together in Project Four? In F2, perhaps, seeing as they were never teammates in F1 afaik.

I would say nail head hammer etc and got it there.

Well, either that, or something with ProCar, but that seems a bit far fetched.

[Michael Ferner]

What have Jochen Mass and Eddie Cheever in common. It has to do with Ron Dennis.

Racing together in Project Four? In F2, perhaps, seeing as they were never teammates in F1 afaik.

A bit more specific? Lots of drivers drove for Project Four, but only Mass and Cheever share this distinction.

[Everso Biggyballies]

Something to do with Ferrari engines or was that the Monza bear only?

[John]

What have Jochen Mass and Eddie Cheever in common. It has to do with Ron Dennis.

Racing together in Project Four? In F2, perhaps, seeing as they were never teammates in F1 afaik.

A bit more specific? Lots of drivers drove for Project Four, but only Mass and Cheever share this distinction.

I knew it was a bit too easy.

I've absolutely no idea.