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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 3 years ago

Latest post of the previous page:

The very famous one off Ferrari 250GTO "Breadvan". Sold recently for North of $25 million.

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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 3 years ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:The very famous one off Ferrari 250GTO "Breadvan". Sold recently for North of $25 million.
A bit about it here: http://www.coachbuild.com/index.php?Ite ... &task=view

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Post by Antonov » 3 years ago

could we spare a thought for the Ferrari F50? by itself, it is a weird looking car. add to that that it is a shadow of its brilliant F40 predecessor, and you have one of the ugliest cars produced.

(mind you, wouldnt decline a ride)

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Post by PTRACER » 3 years ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:
Everso Biggyballies wrote:The very famous one off Ferrari 250GTO "Breadvan". Sold recently for North of $25 million.
A bit about it here: http://www.coachbuild.com/index.php?Ite ... &task=view
Jesus, you wouldn't think a unique, priceless car like that would be allowed out on a race track.

Actually, isn't it depicted here, completely wrecked?! Photo right down the bottom of the page:
http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2008/03/ ... kicked-ass
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Post by Cheeveer » 3 years ago

tbh, I find the Breadvan as one of the most gorgeous cars ever built!
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Post by James Lustman » 3 years ago

PTRACER wrote:
Everso Biggyballies wrote:
Everso Biggyballies wrote:The very famous one off Ferrari 250GTO "Breadvan". Sold recently for North of $25 million.
A bit about it here: http://www.coachbuild.com/index.php?Ite ... &task=view
Jesus, you wouldn't think a unique, priceless car like that would be allowed out on a race track.

Actually, isn't it depicted here, completely wrecked?! Photo right down the bottom of the page:
http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2008/03/ ... kicked-ass
PTRacer, the wreck in the 2nd to last picture in your link isn't the Breadvan its 2053GT

On a separate note the 212 Export Cabriolet Abbott is likely the ugliest Ferrari of all time:
http://www.coachbuild.com/gallery/d/237 ... a6e805f24e

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http://www.coachbuild.com/index.php?opt ... temId=4705

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Post by PTRACER » 2 years ago

Le Mans 1950. I have no idea what to say about this. The car looks like it doesn't know its front end from its back end.

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Post by erwin greven » 2 years ago

some extra information about this car:
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L’année suivante une nouvelle voiture est entièrement construite, tout est repensé, châssis, position du moteur et carrosserie, pour participer aux 24 heures du Mans 1950, ce sera la première voiture à moteur central de l’histoire du Mans, cette année là 2 voitures à moteur diesel y participe. La MAP porte le n°1. Elle n’ira pas loin, abandon sur surchauffe suite à une fuite d’eau au 39eme tour, à la 7e heure. Les pilotes sont Fernand Lacour, Jean-Pierre Wimille et Pierre Veyron (co vainqueur en 39 sur Bugatti), D’après M. Lequellec, dont le grand père a soudé le châssis de cette dernière version, à Argenteuil. Le châssis était tubulaire et en Acier au Chrome Molybdène; à l’époque personne ne savait souder ce matériau et il a fallu l’aide de l’Institut de Soudure qui s’appelait «La soudure autogène» pour parvenir à souder le châssis. Mais son père n’a jamais été payé car la MAP a fait une faillite retentissante peu après.

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Châssis de la MAP des 24 heures du Mans et vue en course. Col. H. Leguellec

Remerciement pour leur aide à Paul Bretzner, son père était concessionnaire des tracteurs MAP, c’est un passionné de cette marque, à Herve Leguellec, son grand père à soudé le châssis de la MAP des 24H du Mans, à Pierre Clin gendre de Fernand Lacour et au pilote Pierre Flahault pour leurs témoignages.

Voir aussi ce blog sur les tracteurs MAP : http://ericdouret.blogspot.com

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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 2 years ago

Another couple of pics from Le Mans 1950 of the Diesel powered MAP:

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Post by PTRACER » 2 years ago

So was it a one-off special then? It looks like a pig, but judging by Erwin's post it was quite revolutionary?! Second Le Mans ever with a diesel, first ever with a mid-engined car, and it seems the chassis was made of molybdenum too which is a very unusual material.
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Post by Manfred Cubenoggin » 2 years ago

I find the MAP diesel LeMans car to be somewhat fascinating, PT. Charming in some sense if you will. It's got that certain, well, I'm not quite sure. Sort of a je ne sais quoi...

It was, after all, French, non? :)
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Post by PTRACER » 2 years ago

Manfred Cubenoggin wrote:I find the MAP diesel LeMans car to be somewhat fascinating, PT. Charming in some sense if you will. It's got that certain, well, I'm not quite sure. Sort of a je ne sais quoi...

It was, after all, French, non? :)
So was Françoise Hardy ;) viewtopic.php?f=12&p=296545#p296526

The French had a talent for producing both the most beautiful creations you've ever seen, and the ugliest. (Bugattis vs. Rene Bonnet's creations for example :whistling: )
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Post by strad » 2 years ago

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Next year a new car is entirely constructed, one re-thinks of everything, chassis, position of the motor and bodywork, to participate at 24 hours of Mans on 1950, it will be the first car with central motor of the history of Mans, this year there 2 cars with diesel engine participates in it. MAP hits n°1. It will not go, abandonment on superheating further to a water leak in the 39eme turn, at the 7th hour far. The pilots are Fernand Lacour, Jean-Pierre Wimille and Pierre Veyron (co victor in 39 on Bugatti), According to Mr Lequellec, whose big father welded the chassis of this last version, in Argenteuil. The chassis was tubular and steel in Chromium Molybdenum; in epoch nobody knew how to weld this material and one needed the help of the Institute of Soldering which was called " The weld " to manage to weld the chassis. But his father was never paid because MAP made a resounding failure shortly afterwards.
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Post by PTRACER » 3 months ago

This Delahaye. This was special "aerodynamic bodywork" apparently.

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