The 'Questions That Don't Warrant Their Own Thread' Thread

[Everso Biggyballies]

Bottom post of the previous page:

God there was some fine looking automotive porn around back then. Thanks for that link.

[Cheeveer]

How would you survive without racingsportscars.com ?!

[PTRACER]

Question about the 1950-1960 Indy 500s.

It was part of the World Driver's Championship, but only Alberto Ascari started a race, Farina DNQ'd twice and Fangio once. Were the Indy 500 cars eligible to run in Grand Prix? Were GP cars eligible to run at Indy without modifications?

[EB]

Until 1958 the only F1 rule was a maximum engine capacity. Most Indy 500 entries in the 1950-1953 period were therefore F1 eligible (Novis and Cummins diesels being the main exceptions). Of course, WDC Grands Prix in 1952-53 were run to F2 rules though. And following the new F1 rules of 1954 that reduced engine capacity, the Indy 500 entries from then onwards would have been F1 ineligible.

Not so sure about the other half of your question, so I will leave that part for someone who knows more about it.

[Cheeveer]

The Indy 500's of the 50's-1960 awarded points for the World Drivers' Championship, not because it was a race for formula 1 cars but because it was an essential race to make it a world championship.

I have the programme from the 1962 Indy 500, the technical regulation part is very brief:



Which would mean that, yes, F1 cars could enter without modifications, even 1960 spec cars. Which pretty much happened:



I have never heard of any tech regulations changes for Indy type cars from around that time.

Any 1961 F1 cars would be hopeless at Indy.

[EB]

I think the full tech regs ran to a few pages, hence my uncertainty on the F1 to Indy part of the question. I have a copy of the 1946 regs I think. I can't recall if there were any items on it that would have required modifications to an F1 car of the 1950s.

[PTRACER]

"Back in the day" the only two types of penalty a driver would receive were: 10 second Stop/Go penalties, or disqualifications.

Question: When was the 10s Stop/Go first used and who was the first victim?

[Michael Ferner]

"Back in the day"?

Why. that makes me very old, I guess. I can vividly remember my outrage when the 10s stop'n'go replaced the one-minute time penalty. That was shortly before I lost interest completely...

[kals]

"Back in the day" the only two types of penalty a driver would receive were: 10 second Stop/Go penalties, or disqualifications.

Question: When was the 10s Stop/Go first used and who was the first victim?

It has to be in the early 90's. Senna received one during the 1993 Brazilian GP, which he took during a tyre stop. I'm trying to remember if there were any handed out in 1991 or 1992.

[MonteCristo]

Wasn't there a time when they didn't do it during pit stops in their box, and had to go to the end or start of the pitlane to serve the penalty?

[Alonsomania]

Hmm. What Im thinking of was planned for 1999, but cancelled in January or February 1999 due to lack of entries. I might just be thinking of the FIA GT championship which ditched GT1 ahead of 1999 (but IIRC GT1 was dropped from FIA GT was announced already during tbe 1998 season). I may also be thinking of the SportRacing world cup series that was around back then.

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/N ... 09-05.html

I know which series you're talking about but definitely not the SRWC or the FIA GT championship.

Ratel (as usual) set it up, would feature one (or two? I need to dig up the magazine which explained the series) or two races for GT1s with a 10 minute sprint race for GT2s.

In the end only Mercedes-Benz signed up (and maybe Persson) and the series never saw the daylight.

I'll try to find the magazine this weekend.

EDIT: FIA IPC; http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50071

[Antonov]

for the GP of the UAE, they should race in Dubai - track looks pretty good in fact (from googlemaps).

but I understand the decision -> Abu Dhabi bailed Dubai not too long ago, and I assume in return they agreed to have the GP there.

[Ian-S]

Abu Dhabi have veto rights to any other F1 race in the region.

[PTRACER]

"Back in the day"?

Why. that makes me very old, I guess. I can vividly remember my outrage when the 10s stop'n'go replaced the one-minute time penalty. That was shortly before I lost interest completely...

Don't worry, I'm hitting the big 3-0 this year, so hand me that shovel when you're finished digging (Which makes me think...in a few years time TNF will be full of posts about the 1990s )

Anyway, 60 second penalties - the only time I can recall that happening was the 1978 Italian GP. It must have been dropped soon after that?

[kals]

"Back in the day"?

Why. that makes me very old, I guess. I can vividly remember my outrage when the 10s stop'n'go replaced the one-minute time penalty. That was shortly before I lost interest completely...

Don't worry, I'm hitting the big 3-0 this year, so hand me that shovel when you're finished digging (Which makes me think...in a few years time TNF will be full of posts about the 1990s )

Anyway, 60 second penalties - the only time I can recall that happening was the 1978 Italian GP. It must have been dropped soon after that?

Gerhard Berger received a 60 second penalty for a jump start at the 1990 Canadian GP. McLaren informed him of the penalty early in the race, he charged for the entire race a still finished 4th, only 15 seconds behind the winner Senna. Technically you could say Berger won the race by 45 seconds.

[Cheeveer]

http://www.autosport.com/premium/featur ... arkest-day

Anyone?