Theo Fitzau, 1953 German GP entrant

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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 5 days ago

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I thought they might not be him which is why I wrote they were said to be him. I had an inkling you would be able to confirm one way or the other so thanks for the confirmation.
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Also @sebbbl, could you provide me several scans of this funeral photo of Fitzau in the highest quality format possible? Say, BMP or PNG? Unprocessed?
Sure, I'll post them soon

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Post by PTRACER » 5 days ago

sebbbl is correct.

I've done the deepest internet search ever looking for information on Fitzau. I know his old address in Köthen and his father's place of business. I know his family history dating back to the 18th Century. I know the names of his father, his uncle, his mother. I have found a book by Michael Schramme written on the family. I've seen the soap his father produced. Then I found this interview in the deepest, darkest archives of the DDR press.

If his face was out there on the internet - which is all I was looking for all this time - I would have found it long, long ago :wink:
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Post by PTRACER » 5 days ago

sebbbl wrote:
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PTRACER wrote:
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Also @sebbbl, could you provide me several scans of this funeral photo of Fitzau in the highest quality format possible? Say, BMP or PNG? Unprocessed?
Sure, I'll post them soon
Thank you sebbbl! Can you email them to me? I'll PM you my personal address.
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Post by sebbbl » 5 days ago

And a photo of him was in a box in my cupboard all the time... :happy: But I was not aware.

I'm still in touch with Paul Greifzu's daughter -maybe she has more information...

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Post by PTRACER » 5 days ago

Let's just confirm the faces of the people at Greifzu's funeral so we can rule them out:

Kurt Straubel
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Arthur Rosenhammer
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Kurt Baum
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Rudi Krause
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Hermann Kathrein
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No photo of Jürgen Perduss, and Klodwig is on the previous page. It must be Fitzau :twothumbs:
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Post by sebbbl » 5 days ago

I have one of Jürgen Perduss / Perduß. I will post it soon...

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Post by PTRACER » 5 days ago

sebbbl wrote:
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And a photo of him was in a box in my cupboard all the time... :happy: But I was not aware.

I'm still in touch with Paul Greifzu's daughter -maybe she has more information...
Unbelievable :haha:
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I have one of Jürgen Perduss / Perduß. I will post it soon...
If you have any alternative photos of Rudi Krause and Ernst Klodwig, could you post those too please? :wave: The two I have posted are the only photos of them in existence (online, anyway).

I'm working with uechtel on an article on the drivers of the 1952/1953 German Grand Prix...
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Post by sebbbl » 5 days ago

I have a lot of photos of Krause.. (10+) and maybe one or two more of Klodwig.

Thank you for your work!!

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Post by sebbbl » 4 days ago

Here's Jürgen Perduss at the start of the 1952 race at the Bernauer Schleife - he came home 2nd.

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Post by sebbbl » 4 days ago

Theodor Fitzau #11 at the start at the Sachsenring in 1951.

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Post by PTRACER » 4 days ago

sebbbl wrote:
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Here's Jürgen Perduss at the start of the 1952 race at the Bernauer Schleife - he came home 2nd.

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This is kind of frustrating. Don't you think he looks quite a lot like this guy?

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Post by Motorsportrace » 4 days ago

At the peak of the procession there're his racing-fellows: Kurt Straubel (front); left backwards: Arthur Rosenhammer, Kurt Baum, Rudi Krause, Herman Kathrein and Jürgen Perduß; right backwards: Ernst Klodwig and Theo Fitzau. Back middle: Theo Helfrich.
I've tried to compare the two pictures.
This is what I got (I hope all is right):

Straubel:
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Rosenhammer:
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Baum (not visible in the second photo):
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Krause (judging by the hair):
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This is another image of him:
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Kathrein (I think it's him: I may be wrong. It appears he has changed position from the first to the second photo):
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Perduss/Perduß:
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Klodwig:
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Helfrich (I'm not sure it's him, but look at the hair: they're the same):
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And this should be Fitzau:
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I'm not sure about Helfrich, Kathrein and Fitzau: what do you think?
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Post by sebbbl » 4 days ago

PTRACER wrote:
4 days ago
sebbbl wrote:
4 days ago
Here's Jürgen Perduss at the start of the 1952 race at the Bernauer Schleife - he came home 2nd.

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This is kind of frustrating. Don't you think he looks quite a lot like this guy?

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These are not the same man. Between both photos are only 10 days and Fitzau has much "softer" facial characteristics.

This is Perduss:

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Post by sebbbl » 4 days ago

@Motorsportrace , thank you for the comparison!

Straubel - correct
Rosenhamer - correct
Baum - likely correct
Krause - correct
Kathrein - your 2nd picture is definitely Edgar Barth
Perduss - correct
Klodwig - correct
Helfrich - that's not him (just google him), but I don't know him... maybe a motorcycle rider?
Fitzau - correct

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Post by Motorsportrace » 4 days ago

sebbbl wrote:
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@Motorsportrace , thank you for the comparison!

Straubel - correct
Rosenhamer - correct
Baum - likely correct
Krause - correct
Kathrein - your 2nd picture is definitely Edgar Barth
Perduss - correct
Klodwig - correct
Helfrich - that's not him (just google him), but I don't know him... maybe a motorcycle rider?
Fitzau - correct
Thank you, I looked at the caption, which didn't mention Barth (I should have guessed it).
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