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Tried calling the German auto federation?Saarlouis street circuit
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I assume you mean the ADAC?
Yes, I did. Three times, in fact. I called them and sent them an e-mail. The guy I talked to on the phone promised me he would have a look into the topic and call me back. But he never did. And I never received an answer to my mails.
A couple of months later, I heard from another person that most of their archive was destroyed in a flood and that these efforts would have been for nothing anyway.
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Oh what a bummer.hollie3sa wrote: ↑5 years agoI assume you mean the ADAC?
Yes, I did. Three times, in fact. I called them and sent them an e-mail. The guy I talked to on the phone promised me he would have a look into the topic and call me back. But he never did. And I never received an answer to my mails.
A couple of months later, I heard from another person that most of their archive was destroyed in a flood and that these efforts would have been for nothing anyway.
Perhaps try contacting Motor Sport Magazine, the amount of knowledge there is insane.
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Good idea. I'll send them an e-mail.
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As promised: A small update:
1975
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of 13 May 1975; Stadtbibliothek Saarlouis
http://touringcarracing.net/Races/1975%20Saarlouis.html
https://www.formel3guide.com/images/erg ... rlouis.pdf
1978
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of 16 May 1978; Stadtbibliothek Saarlouis
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of 17 May 1978; Stadtbibliothek Saarlouis
The bottom photo shows the major start accident in the Alfa Sud-Cup. One car somehow ended up in the middle of the road, sideways. And that one car caused a mass collision with another 7 (the Sportfahrer-issue 6/78 speaks of another 11) cars. The race was not restarted after that since half the field was eliminated. According to the report, one driver was hospitalized with severe ("erheblichen") injuries. The Sportfahrer-issue states that the accident ended leniently ("glimpflich") for all drivers involved.
If I'm lucky, I might get the original photographs. The photographer is Ralf Ruppenthal. We talked once over the phone.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/results ... 17691.html
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As promised: A small update:
1975
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of 13 May 1975; Stadtbibliothek Saarlouis
http://touringcarracing.net/Races/1975%20Saarlouis.html
https://www.formel3guide.com/images/erg ... rlouis.pdf
1978
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of 16 May 1978; Stadtbibliothek Saarlouis
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of 17 May 1978; Stadtbibliothek Saarlouis
The bottom photo shows the major start accident in the Alfa Sud-Cup. One car somehow ended up in the middle of the road, sideways. And that one car caused a mass collision with another 7 (the Sportfahrer-issue 6/78 speaks of another 11) cars. The race was not restarted after that since half the field was eliminated. According to the report, one driver was hospitalized with severe ("erheblichen") injuries. The Sportfahrer-issue states that the accident ended leniently ("glimpflich") for all drivers involved.
If I'm lucky, I might get the original photographs. The photographer is Ralf Ruppenthal. We talked once over the phone.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/results ... 17691.html
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The tiny arrow in the first picture marks the start/finish line
From what I've heard, the paddock was located on the premises. The catering came from the works canteen.
The 2nd photo, however, certainly is not from Saarlouis
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yes. that was the layout.
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yes. that was the layout.
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Sorry hollie3sa i thought the same but its from a track in the Saarland
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Some info i thought might be helpful
Saarlouis – Saarland / 1972, 1975 and 1977-1978 (4) / cars
Location: 49°20'35.01"N / 6°46'4.14"E
Auto racing on street circuits became very rare in West-Germany following several dramatic accidents at home and abroad in the
1950s. After the Solitude near Stuttgart was abandoned in 1965, only the Avus in Berlin, the Norisring in Nürnberg, and, briefly, the
fishing harbour course in Bremerhaven remained. Saarlouis was the only new street course for auto racing in the Bundesrepublik
until DTM began racing in Singen in 1991.
Saarlouis, a city in Saarland which from 1936-1945 was named Saarlautern, hosted the Saarland Trophy (later Karlsberg Trophy)
automobile races in the years listed above, each time in May. All meetings included touring cars and GTs, while sports cars and
prototypes, Formula Vee and Formula Ford (all 1972) and Formula 3 (1975) made appearances as well. Further meetings were
announced for June 1973 and September 1976, 1979 and 1980, but for unknown reasons none of these took place.
The 4.94 km circuit was located north of town, partly running over motorways and partly around the Ford factory grounds, which
also housed the paddock. The course was challenging and fast - Günter Kölmel (March-Toyota) clocked the fastest lap of the 1975
Formula 3 race in 1.42,4 = 173.7 km/h - but unfortunately also suffered from poor safety, as it lacked decent run-off areas and
included narrow sections and hazards like bridge pillars. Sadly, the 1972 and 1975 meetings were both marred by a fatal cras
Saarlouis – Saarland / 1972, 1975 and 1977-1978 (4) / cars
Location: 49°20'35.01"N / 6°46'4.14"E
Auto racing on street circuits became very rare in West-Germany following several dramatic accidents at home and abroad in the
1950s. After the Solitude near Stuttgart was abandoned in 1965, only the Avus in Berlin, the Norisring in Nürnberg, and, briefly, the
fishing harbour course in Bremerhaven remained. Saarlouis was the only new street course for auto racing in the Bundesrepublik
until DTM began racing in Singen in 1991.
Saarlouis, a city in Saarland which from 1936-1945 was named Saarlautern, hosted the Saarland Trophy (later Karlsberg Trophy)
automobile races in the years listed above, each time in May. All meetings included touring cars and GTs, while sports cars and
prototypes, Formula Vee and Formula Ford (all 1972) and Formula 3 (1975) made appearances as well. Further meetings were
announced for June 1973 and September 1976, 1979 and 1980, but for unknown reasons none of these took place.
The 4.94 km circuit was located north of town, partly running over motorways and partly around the Ford factory grounds, which
also housed the paddock. The course was challenging and fast - Günter Kölmel (March-Toyota) clocked the fastest lap of the 1975
Formula 3 race in 1.42,4 = 173.7 km/h - but unfortunately also suffered from poor safety, as it lacked decent run-off areas and
included narrow sections and hazards like bridge pillars. Sadly, the 1972 and 1975 meetings were both marred by a fatal cras
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I cannot confirm nor deny its existence as of now.
I'll find out. Just be patient, please
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Moving this where it belongs:
Had a quick talk on the phone with the lady from the SR today:
Her predecessor is not working there anymore which is why I never received an update. Another company, apparently, has been found to produce copies from their archived footage.
The problem is the process of publishing the footage. For private use only, copies can be acquired easily. Publishing the footage without their consent might get me into some trouble. Getting their consent probably won't be too easy.
I'll send them an e-mail, probably later today, then update this post accordingly.
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Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of Tuesday, May 30 1972
Had a quick talk on the phone with the lady from the SR today:
Her predecessor is not working there anymore which is why I never received an update. Another company, apparently, has been found to produce copies from their archived footage.
The problem is the process of publishing the footage. For private use only, copies can be acquired easily. Publishing the footage without their consent might get me into some trouble. Getting their consent probably won't be too easy.
I'll send them an e-mail, probably later today, then update this post accordingly.
@Motorsportrace:
Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of Tuesday, May 30 1972
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Thanks for that.hollie3sa wrote: ↑5 years ago Moving this where it belongs:
Had a quick talk on the phone with the lady from the SR today:
Her predecessor is not working there anymore which is why I never received an update. Another company, apparently, has been found to produce copies from their archived footage.
The problem is the process of publishing the footage. For private use only, copies can be acquired easily. Publishing the footage without their consent might get me into some trouble. Getting their consent probably won't be too easy.
I'll send them an e-mail, probably later today, then update this post accordingly.
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Source: Saarbrücker Zeitung, issue of Tuesday, May 30 1972
So... that would be the "ill-fated" car, if someone really died in that crash? Or is it the other one that was involved?
Well, you're lucky that acquiring copies for private use is easy.
Ok, you might not be able to post them here, but that's already a good thing, trust me.
Thanks for the update.
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