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1967 Monaco - Bandini's fatal crash

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Re: 1967 Monaco - Bandini's fatal crash

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Post by mstnrc » 1 year ago

Number 3 was not a lucky number for Lorenzo. The incident lasted 3 seconds, Lorenzo remained in the flames for 3 minutes, 3 meters from the sea. And he still lived 3 days.

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Post by sadsac » 1 year ago

mstnrc wrote:
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Number 3 was not a lucky number for Lorenzo. The incident lasted 3 seconds, Lorenzo remained in the flames for 3 minutes, 3 meters from the sea. And he still lived 3 days.
and died from 3rd degree burns

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Post by erwin greven » 1 year ago

it was your 3rd post....
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Post by October31 » 11 months ago

Ferrari skipped Monaco in '68; did Bandini's accident the previous year have anything to do with it? They had a good car and 2 great drivers, it seems odd.

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Post by erwin greven » 11 months ago

Yes. Ferrari was still convinced the safety measures done by Monaco were not enough.
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Post by coland » 3 months ago

I didn't find this picture anywhere so I suppose it is new here.

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It was clearly taken a fraction of time before the collision...

What do you think about it?

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Post by Jesper Hvid » 3 months ago

I remember an old discussion, about that one. Maybe it's still here.
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coland wrote:
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I didn't find this picture anywhere so I suppose it is new here.

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It was clearly taken a fraction of time before the collision...

What do you think about it?
He must have had the Tunnel vision Senna once spoke about after racing at Monaco
because he is looking toward the next part of the chicane not the part he's on :rip:

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Post by mstnrc » 3 months ago

The position of his head looks like not natural. It seems he is looking at his right side, not beyond the chicane

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Post by coland » 3 months ago

mstnrc wrote:
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The position of his head looks like not natural. It seems he is looking at his right side, not beyond the chicane
This is exactly what I noticed too. I have seen dozens of pictures of drivers going through that chicane and in no one the driver looks like that.

For refence here are some other pictures of Bandini himself:

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Someone might say that its already obvious something went wrong otherwise he wouldn't have crahed. But according to me that pictures shows us 2 important things:

1. Bandini's body out of position means the car is not handling right, maybe he had that little oversteer, maybe the gearbox got stuck or maybe he was simply going too fast trying to reach Hulme, unfortunately we still cannot know that.
2. Bandini is clearly looking at the escape route, not at the road as usual, probably considering if he still has time to go that way.

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What I think is that that picture completely wipes away the exhausted driver theory, because Bandini looks pretty aware of what is going to happen.

These are my 2 cents on this, if the picture was already discussed here, I am curious to know what was the conclusions at the time. :thumbsup:
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Post by ReneLotus » 3 months ago

It could just be a bit of distortion, but is that right front looking like coming off the rim?

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Post by MonteCristo » 3 months ago

ReneLotus wrote:
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It could just be a bit of distortion, but is that right front looking like coming off the rim?
Looks it.
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Post by coland » 3 months ago

MonteCristo wrote:
3 months ago
ReneLotus wrote:
3 months ago
It could just be a bit of distortion, but is that right front looking like coming off the rim?
Looks it.
I think it is just an illusion created by the color and design of the rim. Look at these other pictures from Bandini himself and also Amon:

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If you zoom in the Amon one looks even more evident, so I suppose it is just the way the Ferrari's tyres worked.

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