Grosjean recounts his crash

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Sad way for him to finish his career but every time I see the images of that Armco barrier the way it was ripped open I just see Cevert’s car at Watkins Glen
1973 and we all no what happened to him so it’s probably best he isn’t going to race anymore :whistling:
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Grosjean's career was plighted by so many crashes, it is almost ironic that it is ended with one.

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A bit of a Villeneuve type of driver it seems.
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Michael Ferner wrote: 3 years ago A bit of a Villeneuve type of driver it seems.
Father or son?
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Father of course. I don't recall junior crashing that often.
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Michael Ferner wrote: 3 years ago Father of course. I don't recall junior crashing that often.
No, but he stayed in F1 long past his welcome. Kinda like Grosjean...
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sadsac wrote: 3 years ago Sad way for him to finish his career but every time I see the images of that Armco barrier the way it was ripped open I just see Cevert’s car at Watkins Glen 1973 and we all no what happened to him so it’s probably best he isn’t going to race anymore :whistling:
I was quite surprised to read in Toto Wolff's comment about GRO crash, saying something like "...we need to understand what happened and why the barrier let the car through...".
Of course it did, it is Armco after all! It is the same as it was with Cevert and Koinigg.
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Well, this is kinda morbid to say, but now that we’ve established that the tub withstood the impact, I feel like ARMCO barriers (when installed correctly, looking at you, Watkins Glen...) are one of the safest forms of crash barrier when SAFER is not available.

We’ve unfortunately seen the consequence of a car bounce across the track after hitting a tire barrier, and a concrete wall could send a car richocheting across the track even more severely if it’s angled toward the track.
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Yes, I'm not going to lie - I felt very uneasy about their decision to put concrete barriers in a place where a head on impact happened.
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DoubleFart wrote: 3 years ago Yes, I'm not going to lie - I felt very uneasy about their decision to put concrete barriers in a place where a head on impact happened.
I thought that at the time too. Not even any tyre barriers there to protect it.
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Microsprinter18 wrote: 3 years ago Well, this is kinda morbid to say, but now that we’ve established that the tub withstood the impact, I feel like ARMCO barriers (when installed correctly, looking at you, Watkins Glen...) are one of the safest forms of crash barrier when SAFER is not available.
Sorta. He's lucky the nose was at just the right height at moment of contact, separating the rails (helping the deceleration), and the halo did it's thing. It could have turned out very, very differently if one of those things didn't happen........ :dunno:
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PTRACER wrote: 3 years ago
DoubleFart wrote: 3 years ago Yes, I'm not going to lie - I felt very uneasy about their decision to put concrete barriers in a place where a head on impact happened.
I thought that at the time too. Not even any tyre barriers there to protect it.
I thought I read somewhere there's going to be Safer Wall also. It's working pretty well over here.
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It looks like this crash has really spooked Grosjean. Rumor has it that he won't do IndyCar ovals after what happened in his last F1 start.
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Then how will he 'compete' in IndyCar?
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Road course only schedule.
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