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Re: The PTRacer Eifel Grand Prix @ Not the Nordschleife

Post by Michael Ferner » 2 weeks ago

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I thought Jerez for 1998 was binned as soon as the podium ceremony began?
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The Luxembourg title was chosen in 1997 as the Hockenheimring was already contracted to host the German Grand Prix. The Nürburgring had previously hosted the European Grand Prix in 1995 and 1996, but it was renamed due to other changes in the 1997 schedule. Following the cancellation of the Portuguese Grand Prix, a second race in Spain was added, with Jerez hosting the European Grand Prix along with the Spanish Grand Prix at Barcelona. Jerez was due to host the race again in 1998, but the rights to the European Grand Prix had been revoked from the organisers of the race after an incident on the podium in 1997. In 1999 the Nürburgring race returned to using the European Grand Prix title, which it held every year until 2007.
Anybody remeber what that "incident on the podium" was? :huh:
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Anybody remember what that "incident on the podium" was? :huh:
Wasnt it something to do with the Mayor of Jerez? There was confusion over who was presenting what trophies..... someone very senior from Mercedes was only prepared to present trophies to McLaren drivers, and the late switcheroo in the order and subsequent results caused confusion about who was presenting what to who. It was a bit of a shambles.....the Mayor and local dignitaries went ahead and decided to present all the trophies themselves, and the Mercedes big-wig didnt present anything which caused noses out of joint and resulted in embarrassment to F1.

A bit of an ego driven storm in a teacup. At the end of the day the winner and podium getters got the right trophies as did the constructor trophy go to the right constructor.

Just the dude from Mercedes who came specifically to present trophies was left on the podium picking his nose and twiddling his thumbs with nothing to do..... like a pork chop at a Jewish wedding..

Something like that anyway.

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Anybody remeber what that "incident on the podium" was? :huh:
Jerez de la Frontera is in trouble with the FIA as a result of the behavior of the mayor of the town after the European GP in October. The podium ceremony was rather convoluted at the race because the FIA decided - for the first time - that the people handing out the trophies would change, depending on who won the race. The governing body normally issues a list of the dignitaries involved but at Jerez there were two different lists one for a normal race result and the other in case a McLaren won. This was because of the appearance at the race of Daimler-Benz chairman Jurgen Schrempp who obviously did not wish to be photographed handing out prizes to his rivals. This would not have been a problem apart from the fact that the finishing order changed on the last lap with McLaren drivers Mika Hakkinen and David Coulthard both overtaking Jacques Villeneuve. There appears to have been some confusion among the VIPs as to who would get on worldwide television. The mayor of Jerez Pedro Pacheco and regional president ManuelÊChaves made some of the presentations, while Schrempp did nothing.

The result of this was that eyewitnesses reported FIA President Max Mosley screaming at the mayor, informing him that his race track would never be given another Grand Prix.

Last week Mosley delivered an official version of the decision. "The disruption caused embarrassment and inconvenience to those presenting the trophies," the FIA explained, "and therefore, no further rounds of the FIA Formula 1 World Championship will be held at the Jerez circuit."

Pacheco was less than pleased with the outcome. "It's an outrage," he said. "They are proposing a permanent ban. The only thing they did not do was propose that the circuit be demolished. The ban will be impossible. There will be F1 in Jerez."

Despite his protests, however, Pacheco is not in a strong position. Back in 1985 he was the man behind the construction of the track, the intention being to use the events to promote the town and its famous sherries around the world. This was successful for five years and then F1 moved to Barcelona, leaving Jerez with only a couple of European GPs.

The loss of F1 not only negates the purpose for which the track was built but also deprives the area of a much-needed $35m which a Grand Prix brings into the region. This will, inevitably, harm the mayor as the only way that the FIA is going to consider Jerez is if there is a different mayor.
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Post by Michael Ferner » 2 weeks ago

Ah, thanks for that!

Mosley screaming at Pacheco, that would've been fun! :haha: I think he was a socialist, so they probably didn't exchange christmas cards even before. Googling Pacheco now, it seems he's doing time...
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Googling Pacheco now, it seems he's doing time...
Along with many other Spanish Mayors of the previous 30 years. They were well known for turning blind eyes to impediments in major development planning permits and regulations if applications came with large brown paper bags filled with Euros.

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Michael Ferner wrote:
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Googling Pacheco now, it seems he's doing time...
Along with many other Spanish Mayors of the previous 30 years. They were well known for turning blind eyes to impediments in major development planning permits and regulations if applications came with large brown paper bags filled with Euros.
Which sounds a lot the career path I've planned for myself.
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John wrote:
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Michael Ferner wrote:
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Googling Pacheco now, it seems he's doing time...
Along with many other Spanish Mayors of the previous 30 years. They were well known for turning blind eyes to impediments in major development planning permits and regulations if applications came with large brown paper bags filled with Euros.
Which sounds a lot the career path I've planned for myself.
Would you pardon somebody if they committed a crime for honourable reasons, like stealing bread to feed their starving family, or I don't know... Burning a goat to raise the morale of the locals?
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DoubleFart wrote:
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John wrote:
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Michael Ferner wrote:
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Googling Pacheco now, it seems he's doing time...
Along with many other Spanish Mayors of the previous 30 years. They were well known for turning blind eyes to impediments in major development planning permits and regulations if applications came with large brown paper bags filled with Euros.
Which sounds a lot the career path I've planned for myself.
Would you pardon somebody if they committed a crime for honourable reasons, like stealing bread to feed their starving family, or I don't know... Burning a goat to raise the morale of the locals?
If the Aztecs could do human sacrifice for good harvest and to please the Gods, surely I can burn a straw goat to raise the morale of the locals?

Speaking of which, only a month to go until I have to bring that thread back from the dead.
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Post by John » 2 weeks ago

Apparently the race starts one hour earlier this Sunday for whatever reason. Maybe because it gets dark as dark can be pretty early this time of year.

Expected temperature 8 degrees and sprinkled rain showers. Normal summer weather, in other words.
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John wrote:
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Apparently the race starts one hour earlier this Sunday for whatever reason. Maybe because it gets dark as dark can be pretty early this time of year.

Expected temperature 8 degrees and sprinkled rain showers. Normal summer weather, in other words.
Means I can watch F1 over hot coffee early in the morning! Great way to start the day.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 2 weeks ago

In Melbourne we have put our clocks forward an hour this week for daylight saving so it will still be usual 23:10 time race start for me. :sorrow: TV Guide backs that up .
I dont think @MonteCristo and @theracer120 are affected by local time changes as I dont think they do daylight saving in Queensland where they are, so they get the benefit of an hour earlier start.

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Post by MonteCristo » 2 weeks ago

No, no daylight savings up here. We care about our cows and curtains.
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Post by Michael Ferner » 2 weeks ago

We still have daylight wasting crap in Germany. :annoyed:
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Post by Michael Ferner » 2 weeks ago

Your local weather frog in the Eifel reports (almost) no rain for the first time in what feels like weeks, and even a little sunshine!! And that despite a continuous forecast of rain, rain and even more rain, which at present continues for the next ten days. But, fear not, the Nürburgring weather is usually a lot worse than here in the South, the "Eifel Riviera" :mrgreen:
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 2 weeks ago

John wrote:
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Expected temperature 8 degrees and sprinkled rain showers. Normal summer weather, in other words.
Apparently the chance of rain is increasing.... quite a different set of conditions to the relatively warm weekends we have had and certainly something of a wildcard for the weekend.

Edit: Just noticed Michaels comments re the weather.... lol at the Eifel Riviera. I am a bit confused whether you think it will rain or not. Most of what I have read talks of rain, but l guess the locals are on the spot and can see what the sky is doing.

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