The COVID British Grand Prix - Round 4

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Re: The COVID British Grand Prix - Round 4

Post by Everso Biggyballies » 1 month ago

Latest post of the previous page:

A few bits and pieces re who did what:

• Lewis’s 7th Silverstone win sets for a new record for the most wins by a driver in their home event, passing Alain Prost's 6 in the French GP.

• The Mercedes star also set for a new record for most races led from start-to-finish, beating Ayrton Senna's 19.

• Hamilton's 87th career win puts him just 4 short of Michael Schumacher’s record, and only 1 short of Schumacher's 155 career podium finishes.

• Hamilton has won 3 of the first 4 races of a season - whenever he has done this before, he has always won the title (2014 and 2015).

• Max Verstappen gave Red Bull their 1st podium finish at Silverstone since 2016.

• For the 2nd race in a row, Hamilton and Verstappen finish 1-2.

• Danny Ric’s 4th place equaled his best-ever result with Renault - and gave the team their best result since returning as a constructor in 2016.

• Team mate Esteban Ocon in 6th ensured Renault of a total of 20 points today.

• It was also Renault’s best Silverstone result since winning the 2006 race. (At their Ops Directors Alan Permane's 500th GP since he joined the team in its Benetton days in 1989.)

• Ocon has finished 8th, 7th and 6th in consecutive Silverstone starts.

• McLaren’s Lando Norris finished in the top-5 for the 3rd time in 4 races.

• Red Bull’s Alex Albon and Racing Point’s Lance Stroll both scored their first-ever Silverstone points.

• Sebastian Vettel had never finished 10th in a Grand Prix until 2020 - he has now done so twice.

• By contrast, team mate Charles Leclerc took Ferrari's 2nd podium of the year, and finished 3rd at Silverstone for the 2nd year in a row.

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Post by PTRACER » 1 month ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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• Sebastian Vettel had never finished 10th in a Grand Prix until 2020 - he has now done so twice.

• By contrast, team mate Charles Leclerc took Ferrari's 2nd podium of the year, and finished 3rd at Silverstone for the 2nd year in a row.
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Post by MonteCristo » 1 month ago

PTRACER wrote:
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Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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• Sebastian Vettel had never finished 10th in a Grand Prix until 2020 - he has now done so twice.

• By contrast, team mate Charles Leclerc took Ferrari's 2nd podium of the year, and finished 3rd at Silverstone for the 2nd year in a row.
The hallmark of a totally unmotivated driver.
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Post by caneparo » 1 month ago

John wrote:
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Just as I was beginning to come around on Stroll he completely falters when asked to lead the team this weekend. After topping that practice session he drastically dropped down the pecking order during the weekend until his pace completely went off the cliff during the second half of the race. It'll be interesting to see if it was an off-weekend for the team in general or if there were any other issues plaguing Lance. Any comparisons with Hulkenberg are needless as he barely had any seat time during the weekend and DNS-ed the race.
Eventually rp was not in good shape here, look what happened to hulk! I’ve seen stroll’s camera car and his driving look all but neat and clean. I’ll let you decide if it’s because of the car or because of the driver.
The real point if interest is if the car has already reached the top of performance, it’s an okd car which can hardly be upgraded
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Post by DoubleFart » 1 month ago

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Post by Michael Ferner » 1 month ago

Great race! Who's the director in F1 these days? Surefire Oscar nomination!! Excellent timing, too - all the action in the closing minutes, so nobody can afford to switch off early in the future, no matter how dreary the race. And, it didn't affect the results one bit, so you can have everybody agree on it without the need for difficult and protracted tradeoff negotiations - maybe, it was even a Mercedes-only plot, who knows? Surely they must be concerned about the image of F1, and a little off-the-shelf suspense goes a long way. Let's see, what have we got for the next race, maybe low on fuel with a dead engine on the last few yards? A collapsing front wing, or "gearbox problems"? Later in the season, when the titles are all sewn up, there will be opportunities for first-lap collisions with subsequent drives through the field again, I'm sure.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 1 month ago

Michael Ferner wrote:
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And, it didn't affect the results one bit, so you can have everybody agree on it without the need for difficult and protracted tradeoff negotiations
Bottas might beg to differ! Ended up with 'nil points'. And it destroyed any hope there was for a title fight.

I guess this next race on softer rubber will make it a 2 stop race anyway.....

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Post by Michael Ferner » 1 month ago

Bottas doesn't matter in the great scheme of F1. I bet the Daimler directors don't even know his name, refering to him only ever as "number two".

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Post by caneparo » 1 month ago

On the podium with hamilton we had gilles pironi engeneer of mercedes
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Gilles Pironi, son of Didier, born just after his Father died in the powerboat accident. Gilles has a twin brother called, Didier, their Mother having named them in honour of the two team mates and former friends.

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Post by Ruslan » 1 month ago

Well, kind of a boring race until everyone's tires started delaminating.

1. Hamilton - was it my impression in the post race interview that was complaining that Bottas was forcing them to push the pace too much (so they could not just coast to a safe 1-2). As it was, even if that was not what Hamilton was implying, it does appear to be what happened.

2. Verstappen - in the desire to get one extra point for fastest lap, he threw away a win. I liked the idea of a point for fastest lap (although it should probably be three points). It is an interesting option that results in interesting decisions. Was Verstappen's fastest lap going to stolen from his teammate Albon? If Albon already had the fastest lap, then why pitstop Verstappen to take it from him?

11. Bottas - oops. I guess he should have backed off and cruised home to second. Bottas 1.0 may have been a smarter racer than Bottas 3.0.

3. Leclerc - got the max from his car. Continues to impress.

4. Ricciardo - got the max from his car. McLaren will be happy with him next year.

5. Norris - always gives his all. Sainz was mysteriously faster when it mattered this weekend though.

13. Sainz - drove another undramatic but perfectly competent race, until his tire gave out.

6. Ocon - Finally starting to measure up to Ricciardo. I expected more from his already, but apparently it did take some time to recover from his year and half lay-off.

7. Gasly - keeps making his point. Wonder if Helmut notices?

8. Albon - Behind Gasly in an superior car.

9. Stroll - shame Perez was not there. I think he would have been higher in the points.

10. Vettel - second 10th place of his career. Man is setting new records.

12. Russell - Has got to be with a good team in 2022. Looks like the real deal.

DNS - Perez - What an idiot. Left the bubble, went to Mexico City to hang out with family and friends, and then went to Italy (his wife then took down the pictures). So... not even attempted to maintain the bubble. LeClerc also violated the bubble a couple of weeks ago. If these guys lack the discipline to maintain their bubble (and they are certainly paid well enough), then maybe the team needs to assign them watchers. It is clear the Racing Point needed Perez this weekend (and next) and he was not available because he was being a fool.

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Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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Gilles Pironi, son of Didier, born just after his Father died in the powerboat accident. Gilles has a twin brother called, Didier, their Mother having named them in honour of the two team mates and former friends.
That's...really touching.

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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 1 month ago

So one more confirmed tyre failure at the British race....


Daniil Kvyats crash was not caused by driver error rather by a right rear tyre failure as shown in this sequence:

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Post by caneparo » 1 month ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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Gilles Pironi, son of Didier, born just after his Father died in the powerboat accident. Gilles has a twin brother called, Didier, their Mother having named them in honour of the two team mates and former friends.
Despite being twins they don’t look like that much. Here you have gilles on the left and Didier on the right
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Speaking about strong resamblance. it’s well known that didier pironi and jose dolhem were relatives, in fact it was dolhem was responsible of passing the racing passion to didier. What is less spoken about is that didier pironi and jose dolhem were in fact also half brothers because they were son of the same father louis dolhem. But there’s even more: their mothers were the sisters Pironi, bron in Italy, making them also cousins! Their resemblance is so strong !

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Post by caneparo » 1 month ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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So one more confirmed tyre failure at the British race....


Daniil Kvyats crash was not caused by driver error rather by a right rear tyre failure as shown in this sequence:

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It’s been indeed a bad bad day for pirelli. 4 tyres failure and a lot of shame, hiding under the raikkonen debrise excuse, which indeed can’t be applied on kvyat case. I’ve seen really little cirticism to pirelli on specialised press
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Post by White six » 1 month ago

Three front left failures wasn't it? Debris my arse

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