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caneparo wrote: 4 years ago
Mawerick wrote: 4 years ago It's not that Mercedes has a dominating car, it's that Ferrari keeps tripping up on stupid stuff. As a team, Merc just works better.
I can’t understand how ferrari could win this. When mercs started pushing vettel disappeared beyond the horizon. Mercedes are no match. I d say that hamilton is finding a bad client in bottas until now
They lost their chance when CLAP binned it yesterday.
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Brian Redman: "Mr. Fangio, how do you come so fast?" "More throttle, less brakes...."
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There was no chance either. Leclerc did not have e ough pace at the end of his stint on mediums, while mercedes eventually did
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Brian Redman: "Mr. Fangio, how do you come so fast?" "More throttle, less brakes...."
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Judging from their faces, one might conclude that the wrong driver won the race...

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Yes I noticed that too.

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Mawerick wrote: 4 years ago It's not that Mercedes has a dominating car, it's that Ferrari keeps tripping up on stupid stuff. As a team, Merc just works better.
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Vettel muffed up in 2017 and 2018, losing titles that he had his hands on. Part of that can be placed at Arrivabene's management but that aspect has now gone yet strategic errors are still happening, then there's the reliability / frailty of the package that showed scary speed in testing.

Melbourne - Power unit dialed back to ensure both cars go to the flag
Bahrain - Vettel spins in wheel to wheel combat (again) and the reliability concerns hit Leclerc while dominating the race
China - Not as fast as Merc but just plain odd pit stop and team orders strategy
Baku - Q2 tyre choice put both drivers at risk, both hitting the wall. Leclerc's crash meant no true challenge for race win

Whatever way you look at it, one team is making mistakes that is costing itself places and points whereas their chief competitor has been near flawless.
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Bottas better work on his starting procedures, that's his weak spot at the moment.
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erwin greven wrote: 4 years ago
Stupid penalty
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kals wrote: 4 years ago
Mawerick wrote: 4 years ago It's not that Mercedes has a dominating car, it's that Ferrari keeps tripping up on stupid stuff. As a team, Merc just works better.
:agreepost:

Vettel muffed up in 2017 and 2018, losing titles that he had his hands on. Part of that can be placed at Arrivabene's management but that aspect has now gone yet strategic errors are still happening, then there's the reliability / frailty of the package that showed scary speed in testing.

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Bahrain - Vettel spins in wheel to wheel combat (again) and the reliability concerns hit Leclerc while dominating the race
China - Not as fast as Merc but just plain odd pit stop and team orders strategy
Baku - Q2 tyre choice put both drivers at risk, both hitting the wall. Leclerc's crash meant no true challenge for race win

Whatever way you look at it, one team is making mistakes that is costing itself places and points whereas their chief competitor has been near flawless.
If ferrari was so fast they would have done at least a second place in 4 races. This didn’t happen. Mercedes is simply doing it smooth, they know when too push and it’s too easy for them. Let me add that ferrari had brought updates to baku but this did not help. Vettel was never a match for the win nor leclerc showed a stunning pace. It’s a technical matter, I tell you, put your sould in peace that this championship is already over. Mercedes will win again
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It's going to look easy for Mercedes when Ferrari continue to shoot themselves in the foot. I fully understand and appreciate your concern Toni. I think we all believed Ferrari were going to be the team to beat this year. Instead they've done nothing but beat themselves.
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That said, Ferrari could well have had two wins so far if it wasn't for circumstances. Bahrain, obviously enough, and he would probably been on pole had he not smacked the wall yesterday, at which point he wouldn't have had two compromise his strategy and perhaps be in with a shout.

But at the end of the day, these things rarely happen to Mercedes.
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Mawerick wrote: 4 years ago Judging from their faces, one might conclude that the wrong driver won the race...

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I guess ocon was in the motorhome crying alone
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Yeah, I wonder if Ocon is weighing up his career options right now...
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Mawerick wrote: 4 years ago It's not that Mercedes has a dominating car, it's that Ferrari keeps tripping up on stupid stuff. As a team, Merc just works better.
erwin greven wrote: 4 years ago Look, you don't have to be dominant when others make the mistakes.
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John wrote: 4 years ago Yeah, I wonder if Ocon is weighing up his career options right now...
What options? Bet he can’t wait to be offered a works Formula e drive by Merc for 2020.
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